ignition diagnosis steps

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  1. chuntera

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    So I am dealing with an early 86 VFR700 with no spark at the plugs. The bike had extensive work done so its possible I missed something on reassembly.

    Could someone suggest a workflow, or sequence of steps, to diagnose ignition problems ?
    Starting from basics, like using a known working battery.

    Here's what I have done so far:
    - charged the battery
    - visual check for spark on the rear plugs, with the plug grounded against battery negative post (no spark)
    - confirmed resistance of ignition coil primary windings are in the range listed in the FSM (3 ohm)
    - checked coil seconday winding + plug caps are within range listed in service manual (18k ohm)
    - checked pulse coils & camshaft pickup coil resistances are in range (approx. 500 ohm)
    - when the engine kill switch is in "run" position, confirmed ignition coils receive 12V on the black/white wire

    So it appears the ignition system is healthy from the passive checks listed in the service manual.
    Its possible my visual check for spark wasn't very good. I would prefer to use a spark tester tool, but I can't find one to fit these threaded style spark plugs.
     


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    I think it would help to describe the scope of the "extensive work".
     


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    bad c onnections to or bad cdi box ?
     


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    Here is my list of ignition things to check:

    - charge the battery
    - check engine kill switch; when the switch is in "run" position the black/white wire to the ignition coils should have 12v
    - check for worn spark plugs & measure plug gap (0.8 mm)
    - check resistance between spark plug cap and the primary side of the ignition coils (~19k ohm)
    - check resistance of the ignition primary winding (~3 ohm)
    - check resistance of the engine pulse generator coils (500 ohm)
    - check resistance of the cam pulse coil (~500 ohm)
    - check ground wire to ECU/CDI box (green wire 6P connector)
    - check 12v wire to CDI box (black/white wire 6P connector)
    - check for shorted or broken wires between CDI & pulse generator coils (4P connector)
    - check for shorted or broken wires between CDI & cam pulse coil (2P connector)
    - check for shorted or broken wires between CDI & ignition coils (6P connector)
    - measure AC voltage of pulse generator coils while cranking over the engine; it should be approx 1.5 AC volts
     


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    Any updates?
     


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    I tested the spark plugs for the front cylinders. It turns out I have spark on #2 cyl but no others. I swapped the #2 spark plug, and then the ignition coil, however still only spark on #2. If I use the AC setting on my multimeter, the #2 coil low side wire reads about 3V when hitting the starter button but the #4 coil reads about 0.3V.
    I checked all coils have 12V on the low side when the engine switch is in "run" position.
    I next moved around the wiring pins on the 6P connector to the CDI. If I move CDI output for #2 coil to #4 , I get a spark on #4.
    So my conclusion is either the pulse coil inputs to the CDI, or the CDI itself has a problem.
     


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    i had similar on one of my "86 700s, years ago, it quit firing on just one cylinder, so i got cdi box apart to find its potted, no repair possible on circuit board :Frusty: -----@ abt 35,000 miles--- bad box u cant blame honda since they had it supplied by outside vendor---
     
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