power commander-good or bad?

I am thinking of getting a power commander for my 2006 vfr. It is as from factory at moment so as it was new apart when I dropped it while still, I'm and idiot I know! I have read that people have problems with them and also need to use sensors? any advice is more than welcome.
cheers all
Dave

 

If you get the Power Comander mapping right they it will give you good results. Sometimes getting the mapping right can get pricey. I think it took eight pulls and on the dyno with my 5th gen. to get it right. With the PC II and the rest of the goodies I ended up with 108+ hp at the rear wheel. I haven't made the investment yet for my 6th gen. but it's coming.

 

P.C. Good for you.

 

Hey, Riv, welcome back to VFRWorld. I won't tell anyone I saw you here.

 

thanks for the advice. did you have to put 02 sensors on the exhausts?
cheers
Dave

 

Go with a custom map. Don't just use any old map. The air fuel ratio graph must be as flat as possible. Somewhere between 13.something and 14.something.

 

My 5th gen is a '99 so no O2 sensors to deal with. TBR full exhaust system also.

 

One of my riding buddies has a PC on his 600RR. He said it cut his MPG by about 25%. Any VFR owners experience this?

KC-10 FE out...
lane: :usa2:

 

It does bring mileage down because it richens up the mixture a bit. I can't say 25% sounds normal but each bike is different. Dave Kyle VFR, as far as whether to get one or not for an 06 VFR..... It makes all the difference in the throttle response and fills in the "gaps" in the power band. The VTEC hit is smoother and it makes the bike a lot easier to ride. You can ride it in lower gears without the on off throttle response in corners that can scare the crap out of you if you aren't ready for it and makes the bike a lot more usable when traction isn't at its best. I just put one in my 07 with the o2 sensor plugs and its like a different bike!!

 

I personally live for the kick in the VTEC...Coming from RR sport bikes, that's the main reason I keep her revved up. God bless 6,700 RPM's....Little blurbled in the 3k range, but hey, that's the only way I can get her on one wheel. I rev her up, let the off at about 6.5k, and then hit it and let MR. VETEC bring my front wheel sky high....Any smoother transition and I may have to pull up to get her up...I will keep my hard, abrupt transition any day over a smoother low end..

 

'99 PCII, K&N air filter, TBR full system, gearing change (1 down in the front 2 up in the rear), custom mapped. 108hp + at the rear wheel. Mid to high 42-48 mpg consistantly riding fairly aggressively in the twistys or slabbing it at slightly over the speed limit.

 

I know each 6th gen is different but I wouldn't consider the VTEC activation on my '04 an abrubt "hit". I can feel it but I don't find it unnerving or unsettling. Even when it happens at or near full lean accelerating out of turns.

 

Just put Remus, K&N, O2 elims, and PCIII on my 2006. Big driveability difference. Smooths out the entire RPM range, adds more low end torque, and the shift into VTec mode is more of a 'sound and feel' than a pucker moment. Don't get me wrong, the umph is still there, just smoother. You'll also find that the 'flat spot' just prior to VTec engagement is gone.
Good luck,
GeorgiaRider

 

I`m readin` this topic and wonder is there anyone that really have it !!

 

I have an 07 with a PCIII, BMC air filter, and Leo Vince Carbon Slip ons. The PCIII makes the power much smoother, the bike will still wheelie if that is what you are into, but I really like the linearity of the powerband now.

As far as gas consumption goes, a PCIII will give you anywhere from "worse" gas mileage to "downright terrible". It is a racing add-on, made to juice your ride up. Benzine friendliness never came into the equation.

 

NeverlosT, what map are you using on your 07? I've got an 06 with K&N, PCIII, and Remus Carbons, and I'm using the Staintune map from Power Commander. It's seems pretty smooth at transition point, I'm just wondering if there's a better map out there. I've tried some of the maps from VFRD, but cozye's is for 05 or earlier VTec point.
GeorgiaRider

 

I've been very happy with my PCIII. I have the O2 Elim and I am currently using a downloaded Map from Dynojet for my setup. BMC Filter, TWo Brothers M2 VALE, O2 Elim, etc.

I didn't lose substantial mileage and it did smooth the Vtec transition.

I did have some trouble (harder engagement, no mechanical issues) with the VTec Transition when I was in the mountains last week, but I put that towards not having the O2 Sensor hooked up and the differences in elevation. We were running around 5k feet.

 

thank for the advice all you guys. I think I'm set on getting one so wish me luck and I'll post my findings.cheers again

 

I got a 47t rear sprocket for my 02 and I can pull the front wheel off the ground at 4000 rpm's if I want to. Or do your let of then punch it in second and pull the front end up as well. Or I can lean way forward and take off at a rate I never thought possible with a VFR. On top of that I can still hit 155mph. I just get there a lot faster. I found the biggest gain of the sprocket was acceleration at top end (100mph to 150mph) in the lower speeds you are fighting the bike and trying not to spin the tire or bring her up to high in first gear. The rpms are 1,000 higher in ever gear, but I think it's worth it. Sorry this was kind off topic