....Madame President?????

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  1. rngdng

    rngdng New Member

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    "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama


    That should say it all.

    Lane
     
  2. V-FouRce

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    I hate to say it, but when Bill was Commander in Chief we had the BEST PEACETIME ECONOMIC ERA EVER!!! Jobs were up, unemployment was at a record low, we had a FED Reserve surplus, not Deficit, and there was no doom and gloom on the horizon. Not to say that some things were a long time in the coming. Im not politically affiliated with any party, and cant say that I agree 100% with any candidate, I beleive in helping those who are in need, but also working and earning the things you want in life. Im all for Taxing or "penalizing" big american based business that outsources employment to 3rd world countries, or China, who IMO are out to kill our kids, Taiwan and Mexico to line their already deep pockets even more. O.K so the products might cost a little more, Id pay it to keep our economy strong.
     
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    just a few:

    bosnia
    somalia
    bombing syria
    bombing iraq several times
    world trade center #1
    USS cole
    kenya embasseys
    there is more etc...

    during klinton. he did basically nothing in the face of terrorist threats, gutted out intelligence agencies, gutted the military.

    largest tax increase in american history

    2nd president to be impeached

    left office with recession

    bill clinton came into a very strong economy because of the technology (internet/computer) boom. thats it. he did everything he could to kill it, and he did during the . com bubble burst and recession
     
  4. V-FouRce

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    Im sorry Johnnyb, I thought it was Bush who ignored the impending attack refurendum that was presented to him before it went down. And clinton had OBL pinpointed but couldnt launch any missiles into his terrorist camp because the the prince of Saudi Arabia was in his company at the time, thwarting a war with Saudi Arabia for the greater good. I think KC might have been right about you.
     
  5. Knife

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    Talk about hitting the nail on the head! You pulverized it! Well said!:first:
     
  6. KC-10 FE

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    I'm not sticking up for anyone, politics makes people lose their freaking mind so everyone will believe & say something different. These are my observations.

    1) Clinton was a decent POTUS. Just like EVERY POTUS in US history, he did good things & he did bad things. I don't personally care for the man due to the ever present cloud of sleaze he left hanging over the White House. I don't care if you fed the entire world's starving population, when you bang an intern your daughter's age IN THE OVAL OFFICE, that's beyond reprehensible.

    2) Clinton was handed OBL on a platter by the Saudi's in the mid 90's. He declined to take that offer for reasons that are un-clear to me to this day. His record on terrorism was spotty at best.

    3) It is commonly known that the attack that was 9/11 was to take place during the 00 Presidential election, soley for the purpose of disrupting the election. The US got the drop on it so the attack was postponed. The 9/11 attack was then devised because the terrorists mistakenly believed the chaos resulting from the election fiasco was a sign that the USofA & then new POTUS Bush were weak & could be exploited. Boy, were they wrong.

    4) POTUS Bush took the fight to the enemy (terrorists), on their soil, for the first time since the Iran hostage crisis. Like him or not, POTUS Bush kicked ass in Afghanistan. I only wish the job would have been finished properly. One of the biggest weaknesses of the USofA (again, MY opinion & only MY opinion) is that we desire to turn right around & help the nations that we just stomped the crap out of. Examples include: Japan, Germany, former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq. Had we just stomped a new ass into Afghanistan & let them all starve (since they have absolutely no economy other than opium), we could have sent a REALLY powerful message that the USofA IS NOT TO BE SCREWED WITH ON OUR OWN SOIL.

    5) There was nothing wrong with going into Afghanistan or Iraq. Much like Vietnam, the manner in which the conflicts were persued was the problem. You have my 1000% guarantee that Iraq would still be in our faces (just in a different way) had we left Saddam Hussein to his devices. To say otherwise shows a complete lack of understanding of world politics. Look no farther than Iran for an example of this. They are currently acting like retards because they know the USofA is fantastically distracted with other matters. Make no mistake, if we "finish" in Iraq & have nothing on our plate, you can bet your ass Iran will play nicely with others. Why? Iran knows if we have nothing else distracting us, it would take less than a month to wipe out their ENTIRE military force.

    6) We should have bombed Saudi Arabia into the stone age long ago. There's no one who could have stopped us from doing so. These people are not our allies, they just tolerate our existence. That's why USCENTCOM is now in Qatar & not SA.

    7) Our association with Israel is a huge factor why the Islamic world hates us. We are their ally & the world of Islam hates them. As long as we are their ally, we we ALWAYS be at risk from Islam.

    8) People who like to disrespect the POTUS (any of them), need to step back & realize that the POTUS has access to info that no one else does. The POTUS must make life & death decision on a daily basis. To say POTUS X is a retard & POTUS Y is awesome is pretty silly since I guarantee you couldn't do any better dealing with the matters at hand.

    9) Hillary Clinton has been involved with POTUS Clinton's antics for the nearly half a century. She was with him during his White House years as well as all the nonsense before in Arkansas. That's enough political BS for two lifetimes. Now that she wants to get into the White House herself, that sets off alarm bells in my head. Since she's already dealt with all that crap previously & STILL wants to be POTUS, that tells me she wants the power, not the position. The very thought of her as POTUS asolutely TERRIFIES me.

    KC-10 FE out...
    :plane: :usa2:
     
  7. NorcalBoy

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    Are you hoping IA is reading your posts? It seems like it. The Borg collective is alive and well.
     
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    Don't go stickin' your nose in other folks business and shit doesn't happen. You get what you ask for.
     
  9. KC-10 FE

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    Huh? :confused:

    KC-10 FE out...
    :plane: :usa2:
     
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    ROLMFAO! :rolleyes:
     
  11. 34468 Randy

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    You want my money, do something that makes me want to give it to you, Lets see........maybe work hard for me? Bunch of lazy Bas%#rds. OOOOPS. I almost swore:redface:
     
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    Easy, fella. You KNOW how I feel about profanity! :biggrin:
     
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    You know, if you were a woman and you and I were not already married, I would ask you to marry me. Only cause I think you are a bit of a closet red neck and that turns me on !!!!LOL:kiss:
     
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    You know, Randy, I wasn't sure what you would come back with, but that got me completely! I am STILL laughing as I type this! :laugh: :laugh:

    And as far as the "closet red neck" thing goes, well, I just don't think I want to know... :bolt:
     
  15. squirrelman

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    KC-10, all pumped up with aggressive patriotism, seems quite ready to bomb other countries as a solution to international disagreements, so we can predict he'll be supporting McCain.

    IN IRAN some of their anger stems from the CIA-controlled coup that overthrew a popular, democratically elected leader back in the '50s
     
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    If people knew the truth. wow, our fore fathers are turning over in there graves, didnt Bill Clinton disgrace the nation once ? i guess you know what side im on.

    at least were not still beating the harley davidson thread ?

    and i know my spelling sucks lets make a thread on that ?

    THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PRAYERS FOR MY DAUGHTER :smile:
     
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    Truth??

    IF people knew the truth about the bribery, backdoor deals, collusion, ethical misconduct, and hypocracy of our senators and congressmen 3/4 of them would be in jail, and the remainder would be on the phone with their lawyer!!
     
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    yea you have a point and arnt they like rollmodels to us ? i feel sorry for our kids and greand kids
     
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    Speed, Glad to hear that your daughters surgery went well, I wish her & your family well.:pray2:
     
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    OMG I feel an elf comment coming :tongue:
     
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