Staintune Review

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  1. michael

    michael Administrator Staff Member

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    Well, I haven't said anything until now, as I have been having fun putting another quick 500 miles on my bike...

    Last Thursday my new Staintune pipe arrived from Honda of Milipitas. This was only two days after having placed the order, and earlier than expected. I got a smokin' deal of $450 for the pipe (slip-on), and it arrived packed perfectly and in top condition. Thumbs up to Honda of Milipitas and Nikki, who took my order. She even included the factory exhaust gasket, which, by the way, is not necessary on the Staintune. The Staintune is "all inclusive," Nikki, but you get a "thumbs up" for throwing that in for free just in case...

    Kudos to Staintune.. This is a beautifully machined piece of equipment! Installation was a snap, and required no drilling, machining, banging or shoving of any kind. While most people could have installed this pipe in under an hour, I really took my time and completed the job in about two and a half, but I am including time to wash and pack away my stock pipe in case I want to reinstall for resale.

    I tried the pipe both with and without the spud... My take on this is that there is some difference in the sound (although not much), and it is quieter with the spud in. However, with the spud in it feels nearly stock in horsepower. Without the spud, however, it sounds AWESOME, although it's been criticized by some of my squid buddies that it's too metallic sounding and that a Micron or MIG would have sounded better. Personally, I like the more metallic ring (like a "rip") to the pipe, and I preferred the Staintune's sound to the more muffled "thump" of the MIG and the Micron. Of course, that's just MHO... I have a .wav file for anyone interested, although admittedly it's not mine and was sent to me before I purchased my pipe. However, I will be happy to share if the real owner (I forgot who I got it from) has no objections.

    The pipe fit great. Looks incredible. I am very happy! Oh, and for all of you naysayers out there talking crap about Staintune's that do not increase the hp of your Viffer, I say you are full of it! At least without the spud (why would you want to use that thing?), there is a definite hp and torque increase that can be felt throughout the RPM range, and especially about 9k. Staintune publishes charts that say that there is a 5-7hp increase in the upper range, and I can definitely feel exactly that! The bike now accelerates from 100-130 the way it used to from 40-70. I would not be surprised to see a top end speed increase of 5 mph or so, if you have the balls to run that fast. All this with a stock filter...

    What I bought in a pipe was ease of fitment, looks, sound, and a small performance increase, although not necessarily in that order. That is exactly what I got, and I got it early because I bought from HOM.

    Note that the other pipes that I mention here are carbon fiber. I didn't purchase those pipes because I don't like the look of carbon fiber, and knowing that carbon fiber breaks down over time in extreme heat conditions, I was worried about what it would look like in a year. On the other hand, carbon cans tend to stay cooler to the touch than metal ones.

    My Staintune definitely gets hotter than the stock pipe did, and I was worried that a high pipe might cause problems with a pillion or with my big boots. Happily, I can tell you that neither my pillion nor me ever burned or melted anything, which is a problem that MIG apparently has and Micron actually added a guard for. While this seems like a great idea, I liked Staintune's idea of just keeping the pipe and the connecting pipe away from you or your passenger better. I am very happy, and while the pipe is definitely warmer than stock, I would not say it's going to be extreme enough or in the way enough to cause any kind of problem. Nothing of mine or my pillion's comes in contact with any part of the pipe, which is apparently more than can be said for Wolf, MIG, or Micron. (Don't shoot me for saying that, I am simply reiterating what owners of these pipes have told me...)

    I definitely recommend this pipe. Clean, throaty, gorgeous, and everything I wanted in a pipe. Oh yeah... No springs either, and no separate connecting pipe and can like some pipes... It's also a huge bonus that unlike all other aftermarket pipes, I will never have to "repack" my Staintune... It does not use packing material. Instead, like a car muffler and the stock pipe, it uses a series of metal baffles designed to be lightweight and maintenance free. This gives the pipe it's unique sound and is as conveinent as the stock setup.

    My grade: A+
     
  2. Muzza

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    Also had a Staintune stainless steel high rise pipe fitted to my '01 VFR - Very happy with it - sounds great. I run it without the bung - prefer the sound.

    I had my dyno'ed when I had it fitted and if I remember correctly it produced an extra 4 kw at 10500 rpm - not that I actually use it that much at that rev range. Was also fitted and dyno'ed for free by the retailer.

    Would recommend. :smile:
     
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    great write-up... i'm torn between the staintune and the remus any thoughts?

    duke
     
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    On my '05, same dyno @ 3000 ft alt, 4th gear. Stock configuration. The only mod is Staintune:

    stock - 93 hp
    Staintune w/ spud in - 96
    Staintune w/ spud out - 98

    Spud out had higher numbers than spud in across the RPM range.
     
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    I let the spud in for a while. Recently, I decided to remove it to see how it sounded. It was a little louder and sounded better. So no more spud for me.
     
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    Just how loud is this pipe on a 5th gen?

    I'm looking for something with a bit more than the current G&G carbon fibre that's on my ยด99 now (I've got a neighbour with the loudest possible TL1000 you've ever heard, so no matter what I do, I won't stand out ;) ).

    Rgds

    /J
     
  7. STEVE MANKIN

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    spud tends to rattle a bit on mine..but the sound wears on me a bit on long rides with it out.....great pipe..looks good.
     
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    Just curious, how come you don't wear good fitting ear plugs on long rides ?
     
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    STEVE MANKIN New Member

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    still noticeable with plugs to me....i like quiet pipes......
     
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    When I bought the Gen5 second hand in 2001, it was fitted with a Staintune, sounded and looked great. Sold the bike to a mate two years ago.

    When I bought another Gen5 6 months ago, it was its sister twin bike, same exhaust and color. Still sounded and looked great.

    My mate took the spud out last week... Wow, what a great loud beautiful sound !

    So I took the spud out this morning... All right, copycat, guilty as charged.
    I thought the difference would be mostly noise level - and indeed does she sounds great now. But there is also noticeably more power. The proof ?

    Before Viffer wouldn't lift the front without some help via a combination of either clutch / throttle yanking / arms pulling / bum shifting - you get the idea.

    Now it's first gear, simply accelerate full throttle and just wait a couple of secs for a gentle (yet exhilarating) lift and the front wheel slowly move skyward.

    Yep, Viffer does power wheelies now !!!
    Which begs the question: Why did I wait for 7 years to take the spud out ???
     
  11. txviffer

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    Thanks for the thorough staintune write up michael. Really looking forward to hearing the exhaust now, Ive got a high mount on the way. Already I am thinking the 'spud' will come out quite soon. Currently on my '94 is a TBR which was on the bike when I purchased it.
    There is one thing I am somewhat anxious about. That is mounting the can's back support strap.... where does that hook up to exactly?
    Gil
    <edit post - the staintune is installed. A clean almost factory install. The back support strap for the can bolted to a threaded hole already in place in the bike's frame - how cool is that? Everything bolted up without any modification needed.
    I love the look and the sound is different than the TBR but I am unable to really put it to words.
     
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    Staintune silencer/spud removed...

    I agree with the previous posts, the bike sounds great with the silencer out. I prefer the growl and burble. I am curious if there is any down side, mechanically or otherwise to running without the "spud"? Law enforcement concerns aside...
     
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