Braided brake line kit

I’m restoring my newly bought VFR and will start with a complete brake system rebuild.
I consider to replace all brake lines, so can anyone recommend a complete braided brake line kit?
BTW, do you think need to service this caliper?

 

Jesus F-ing Christ

Looks like the Secondary Master on the fork was applying pressure all the time?

 

Your caliper looks fine, just rinse it off, lol. Jeez!!

I used a Galfer kit, worked fine for me..... had them make the brake and clutch hose 2" longer because I had risers......

 

they have to stop using reindeer pee to thaw the roads, it plays havoc with your undercarriage and brakes.

 

Yeah, that sounds like a good bet, since it seems like it’s the middle piston that has done the damage. I have no idea of how the previous owner has been able to ride it without noticing that something is completely wrong

 

Thanks! Like this kit?:
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle...ne-kits-honda-vfr800-1998-2001?sku_id=1844604
If yes; how long have you had them?

 

I've had them a couple of years, got the yellow ones to match my paint.... got them here, you can contact them, order the colour you want and add length if you like, no extra charge. They submit the order to Galfer and ship in less than a week..... good people to deal with and cheaper than Revzilla.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2533572513...r+SX+770D5JEqzahKznXepY5A=|tkp:Bk9SR56QoPDiYg

 

I too would be wearing rubber gloves If I had to handle that calliper. You definitely need to look very closely at the SMC as it has likely either seized in the bore or the compensating port is clogged with debris, so that centre piston can't ever retract.

If you need used some parts I have had very good service from Baboon M/Cycle parts in Netherlands.

Maybe this is God/Soichiro Honda's way of telling you that it is time to de-link the linked brakes?

 

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Thanks! I think I will order from them then.

 

Thanks for the tip on Baboon, I will try them next time I need used parts. I just bought a used rear caliper on ebay. But I can also recommend allegro.pl where I have found som hard to find used parts earlier.
I have thought about de-linking it, but from what I have heard the system should work really well. Of cause it is a complex system, that requires maintenance to work properly. I am an engineer so the nerdy complexity compels to my geek-mind. Also I don't think that the Danish MOT check will allow a creative reconfiguration of the braking system.

 

If you do the delinking properly, you can use all standard Honda parts, just from a mix of Honda bikes. I had a mix of CBR600F4 and 6G VFR parts on my last VFR and they were great, but I have decided to keep my current VFR completely stock and well-maintained.


Unless your MOT inspector was very sharp I doubt they would pick the change. The inspectors here are looking for condition and function; as long as a bike passes the braking test and both front and rear brakes work and look in good condition, you pass.

 

THAT'S the front end that should have came on the 98 in the first place. In 2002, it became a Stupid Fucking Spaceship... might as well make it even more complex at that point.

"SFS" comes from my "opportunity" to work on a '02 VTEC/LBS/ABS model. A Borg Cube is less densely packed and complex.

I would have considered an '07 Anniversary Model.... until about day 5 that thing was in my shop. I got it running, gave it a once thru and fixed some other things, experimented with some different maps, test rode it... and told my friend it is never coming back into my shop ever again.

 

Wow! That looks really clean. Is the front forks and calipers from the CBR? What does the rear brake look like in this setup?

 

Basically, the rear would look stock too. Source a CBR rear master cylinder (for the correct diameter for proper pedal feel) and run 2 lines to the rear caliper on a double banjo bolt, or run one line and do just a small jumper line to the second fitting on the caliper. Looks stock and you lose about 3 miles* of brake lines and 700 pounds* of proportioning / delay valves and related hardware. (*approximate values)

Box up the original hardware if you want or sell it to Rube Goldberg Racing to recover some costs.

 

Forks are CBR600F4i. Callipers can be from the same but the best combo is the CBR954 calliper and 600RR master; better hydraulic ratio IMHO. I ended up with a CBR600F4i fender as well, 6G VFR triples and bars, all of which just bolts together like Honda intended. The only mod was to space the ignition down by a few mm (using washers) to allow the steering lock pin to engage the socket on the frame.

At the back I used another CBR600F4 master cylinder, and joined both stock hoses to that using a double banjo. The rear calliper is 100% VFR including both hose connections. The brake hose that normally goes to the front link reaches the rear master very naturally.

 

Nice detailed description, thanks! So the stock wheel and disks works with the CBR600 front fork? The 600RR master that you mention, is that 2003? 6G VFR Triple is that because of increased fork diameter?
It sounds compelling to get rid of all that plumbing, but it also sounds like it could become an expensive mod…

 

Thanks for all the detailed info. The conversion and brackets looks really nice. When I clicked one of bracket’s, it linked to a page with more pictures. Some of them with a red 5G with a non stock master. Is that your bike? I like the windshield, what brand is that?

 

All correct I believe. The CBR fork is 43mm diameter so triples and bars need to be the same. The VFR 5G wheel, axle, spacers and discs are retained. The 600RR master is "intergral" style that is visually the same as the 5G original and the correct size for 954 callipers.

As Mello points out, the cheapest brake delink is to buy VTR1000F lowers, these will bolt right together with the 5G fork uppers and dampers, but give you the option to use the 4-piston callipers from the VTR or the options I mentioned. I went to the 600F4i parts for the external adjustability, and the increased stiffness of the 43mm tubes. You can add "some" external adjustability using the VTR1000F fork cap/damper assembly (I've done that on my current 5G).