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  1. Igrok

    Igrok New Member

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    I know there are now a plethora of comm units available. I used to use the old "chatterbox" when they first came out. Now, I'm looking into getting a Sena model or a UClear.... Questions are:

    #1. Your preferred brand and why
    #2. How well does it play with other brands (Obviously you can't force your buddies to buy the same unit)

    Thanks in advance for the info!!
     
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    Autocom with 2 way radio.

    Telephone via sat nav.

    Obviously they need to have same set up.
     
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    I have the Cardo Packtalk and I absolutely love it. It has several features that more an more comm systems are catching up with, like audio sharing. This means you can play your music and share it with another linked in rider. Parallel audio. Where you can have your music or Radar detector going and still have the rider to rider comm going. This feature has come in real handy on a few rides, where the rider with the Radar detector was able to warn us other riders of detection.

    That being said, if you plan on riding with the same people and the group is 4 or more, the DMC mode of the Packtalk is the best thing to happen to rider to rider comms. All of the major brands out now have "universal" connection but those are via Bluetooth, which is old school technology. So you are limited and can suffer connectivity loss when getting out of range. This is where the DMC mode works awesomely. If you go out of range, you will of course lose the connection but once your back in range it automatically reconnects you to your "pack".

    If you plan on mostly riding solo or with a friend or two, then just about any comm system should be sufficient.
     
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    thanks for the info OOTV, that's what I've read as well. I don't plan on riding with more than 2 - 4 riders and haven't had anyone ride pillion in a long time.
     
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    I had Uclear and now I use the Schuberth c3pro with the built in comms which I think is from Sena. It's much better than my old Uclear but much more expensive.
     
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    C3 and C3 Pro SRC units are made by Cardo, the new C4 comm system is made by Sena. The SRC for the C3/C3 Pro is the equivalent of Cardo G9/G9x.
     
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    I'm going with the pactalk unit - it just makes sense.
     
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    oh yeah, I always get those two mixed up.
     
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    I have the (now old-tech) Sena SM5. Works well enough for the Mrs and I when touring. Pairs with the phone etc. so I can take calls etc. I've also ridden with a friend who has an SM10, and it pairs well enough with that. Haven't tried pairing it with other brands.

    For the limited uses I have for it, it's fine for my purposes.
     
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    I'm still using my 6 yr old schuberth c3 with the src/cardo but my friend just bought the Sena PAC talk slim and I used it for a day. Im gonna probably install one in my shoei. Super clear and controls easy to use. The PacTalk would be a great choice.
     
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    Packtalk is made by Cardo, or are you talking about the Sena that is designed to go into the Shoei? Sena seems to have gotten in with the helmet Manufactuerers and have “built-in” kits, which both Schuberth and Shoei have designed their helmets to support. It’s great for integration but Sena uses a Bluetooth design and is not like the Palktak DMC system, which IMO is far superior to the old Bluetooth systems.
     
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    Correct and no... :)
    I was talking about a few year old Shoei that is not modular and has no communication. It matches my VFR color. The Shoei Neotec2 has the option for the built in Sena set.($700+$250) Even that is a generation old and is not as good as the PacTalk you suggest. Isnt it referred to as the MESH system? I am not sure I totally understand what they are doing. It makes my head hurt. hahahaha. The way it processes the priorities of multiple riders plus the components (+functionality) that you sync with. (GPS, Streaming, Phone, sd card). FYI as the C4 has dropped to $349, Sena has updated the built in package and should be releasing soon. That would give a modern Schuberth "c4" with a modern "this generation" sena communication. (hopefully in the $250 range). That would give you a $600 fantastic modular helmet with current comm. I pity the guys who dropped the $1000+ for the initial sale. Man I am mad and didn't even spend the money. As a final thought, the "built in" must have a way to upgrade as the comm systems are changing FAST, MAYBE TOO FAST. thanks for the dialogue.
     
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    Look on eBay at the V8 motorcycle intercom. Those direct from China units are a tremendous value. Right now the single V8 unit with remote is $90.

    I bought an earlier version (V4) with no remote. Then a new version came out with the remote (V6). My old units paired to it just fine, the handlebar remote works great, sound is clear on calls, and having audio navigation is awesome!

    Josse
     
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    That is good info. Do you have a link?
     
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    This is the current model. The intercom unit is different than mine, but the remote is the same. The controls on the mounted unit look easier to use with gloves than mine.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/V8-1200M-6...=item3aee2350d9:g:VwAAAOSw~ZBZzx-S:rk:33:pf:0

    Looks like you can still get the V6 I bought. I like that the mic/speaker connector on mine is non-proprietary, and it doesn't stick straight out the bottom. It points back a little. I also prefer the helmet Mount on that V6. It's like a giant paper clip, and the bottom of the unit is pretty much flush to the bottom of the helmet.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/EJEAS-E6-P...=item3faeabb99c:g:7fcAAOSwfdNbx~cP:rk:10:pf:0

    Jose
     
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