Confused About Clutch Stacking Order

I am working on the clutch in my 1986 VF500F engine, it has a slipping clutch. When I removed the frictions it looked as if the order was reversed, finishing with a friction at the pressure plate. My diagrams show it finishing with a steel.

Could anyone please clarify this for me? Thanks.

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You have to start and finish with a friction, as there is no way you want a steel next to either the back of the basket or the pressure plate. It would tear them up quickly.

 

And don't forget to soak the new frictions in fresh oil for a bit before assembly. And most definitely replace the springs regardless what they measure at.

 

Thanks Cap. I appreciate your help as always.

Motorcycle had a 1984 V30 engine, just swapped to the 1986 Interceptor 500 engine I had in reserve. Clutch slipping in replacement engine. Pulled clutches out of both, 84 steels and frictions were still good. 86 steels were burned discolored.

I believe PO had the 86 stacked incorrectly. I do realize the order changed through the model years primarily the judder component locations.

Using the steels and frictions from the 84, I stacked according to the schematic, Clymer and fiche were the same. Rode about 250 miles and have very good clutch, controlled release is very precise, firm as well.

I agree the order is counter intuitive, but the steel cannot impart wear upon the pressure plate, as the two are joined as one by the inboard splines and rotate together anyway.

So that's how I have it for now, please if anyone can comment or expand please do.

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If you have a steel at the outer location, it is wrong, regardless if it isn't spinning in relation to the pressure plate. Period.

 

Yes a steel at the pressure plate.

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1984 has the judder components at the pressure plate. Following years have the judder components in the bottom of the basket.

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You are reading the diagrams wrong. Fische shows fiber (larger I.D. than the rest of the frictions to accommodate the judder spring and seat) at the pressure plate. The way you have it is wrong. Seriously.

Did you buy OEM or aftermarket frictions? How many do you have?

 

Yes I will have to look at it again! I am using steels and frictions salvaged from a 1984 Magna. Counting the narrow disc, a total of nine frictions (and eight steels).

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