The bike hasn't gotten alot of attention cause of the Mini Countryman I bought and am modifying. Went to a chain tire shop today after putting in struts, shocks and camber arms. The "tech" was having alot of trouble. After an hour of watching I started making suggestions. He admitted that this was his 1st 4 wheel, O'boy.... I have used a Hunter b4 but no longer have access. In short, I told what to turn and how far and got my somewhat non-stock alignment specs. And, I hope he learned. Truth is, you can't trust that they know what they're doing. Should have gotten a training discount..