Heli bars/risers or steering damper?

Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by TTB, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. TTB

    TTB New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2018
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Pick one. Why?

    I only have enough in the budget this year for one or the other. In your opinion, which is the more worthy investment? Why? And do you have any suggestions for your choice, including brands & purchasing options?

    '02 VFR

    Thanks!

    Trevor
     
  2. bk94si

    bk94si New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2018
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Heli-bars. Everyday comfort. Most people will never need a steering damper, nice insurance policy though.
     
  3. mello dude

    mello dude Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    3,386
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    78
    Location:
    Southwest Ohio
    Map
    Neither...
     
  4. NorcalBoy

    NorcalBoy Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2007
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    260
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Desert Southwest
    Map
    Do what you think is best, if you ask the question here, you'll get nothing but more questions and not many good answers. Do what you think is going to help you the most first, then do the other, after you gather up the money. 99.999% of people here don't set up their chassis with radical enough geometry to require a damper, so keep that in mind.
     
  5. TTB

    TTB New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2018
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    1
  6. FJ12rydertoo

    FJ12rydertoo Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,902
    Likes Received:
    158
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Platte City, MO
    Map
    TBH, I've never heard of anyone putting a steering damper on a VFR, of any vintage, or anyone who felt
    the need for one. Heli-Bars are nice if you want a more straight up riding position. If you spend more time
    on twisty roads, you'll probably want to keep the stock bars.
     
    XRedJar and John451 like this.
  7. skimad4x4

    skimad4x4 "Official" VFRWorld Greeter

    Country:
    France
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,740
    Likes Received:
    136
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    French Alps & London
    Map
    Hi TTB and welcome to the MadHouse:Welcome:

    When you get a chance please swing by the Introductions forum and post up a bit about you and roughly where you and your 02VFR are based in the States as you may find some of the forum members are your neighbours and could perhaps meet up sometime.

    As what to go for with limited funds - I would advise hold off at least until you have used the bike a few times. If the bike needs a service (or encounters electrical gremlins) you might need some funds in reserve.

    Personally I very quickly opted for heibars, as my wrists and back was definitely unhappy on longer 600 mile+ trips across Europe with the stock bars. It seems a few people first try fitting risers - which certainly help a bit and are a lot cheaper. If you find your wrists are still unhappy you can always sell the risers and fit Helibars later. Helibars move the bars upwards and a bit nearer to you. The distance is not great but makes a huge difference to load on your wrists, and is about as far as you can move them bars without having to replace cables. There is a thread on here which explains how to fit helibars, which can be done without disturbing the brake lines and avoids the need to bleed brakes.

    I have never felt a need for a steering damper, but then again I live in the Alps with lots of crazy twisty roads where being able to quickly and easily turn the steering from lock to lock can be pretty essential. Even without a damper my VFR was quite at home on the Isle of Man TT course..


    SkiMad
     
    tommy faulk sr likes this.
  8. fink

    fink Insider

    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,157
    Likes Received:
    293
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Ardnamurchan Penninsula, Scotland
    Map
    Would say firstly clock up a few 000 miles before you go and start throwing money at the bike. I'm always amazed at folk who start chucking the "comfort stuff" on before they have even used or got used to the bike, or should I say muscles used to the bike.

    If you really need to the bar risers.
     
  9. Keager

    Keager Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2007
    Messages:
    1,333
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    53
    Location:
    East Moline, IL - my own 'hood
    Map
    I've got one. Probably one of the few, if not the only one. Ohlins. Just for the security of the head shake. Like riding the twisty roads in Wisconsin, when I get up there.
     
  10. tommy faulk sr

    tommy faulk sr New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Cajun Country Abbeville LA
    Map
    Have recently purchased a 2005 VFR
    It had Heli Risers, Sargent seat for the
    Comfort areas. I've had sport bikes
    With dampners and didn't really utilize
    Them. In A practical sense the risers
    Are a sure investment. Previous statements
    About saving for possible maintenance
    Or initial repair are good ones.
    Enjoy the bike most of all!!
     
  11. Cycleman1

    Cycleman1 New Member

    Country:
    Canada
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2018
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    8
    I've always found changing the bar's whether by raising them on some bikes, or getting rid of the clip ons on bikes like the BMW R1100S or the VFR 800 have worked the best for me. It all depends on the individual when it comes to this type of mod. On my 99 VFR I used the handlebar kit I bought from Wetbike Japan. All the stock parts, throttle, clutch and brake hose fit, but you do have to modify the stops on the master cyclinders ( cut one stop tab off so you can rotate the hose). You may or may not have to do this depending on where you position the bars. They where a bit cheaper for me than the Hellibars and do offer some advanatages, more adjustable and the handlebar offers places to put GPS etc. They also sell the police conversion kit with throttle cables etc. for a few dollars more.

    I've never seen the need for a dampner unless your bike has a head shake that you are trying to control. Usually new steering bearings fix that issue.
     
    tommy faulk sr likes this.
  12. TTB

    TTB New Member

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2018
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Hey everyone, just want to say thanks to everyone for all you input. Not sure how some people got the idea that I just got the bike/started riding (bought the bike new myself in '02), but I think I've decided to go with the helibars this spring in any case. Thanks again.
     
    tommy faulk sr likes this.
Related Topics

Share This Page