Oggy Knobs anyone?

My shiney new VFR800 (in candy red - which is fantastic too!) is great - and to protect it I have decided to fit Oggy Knobs to it. Anyone else installed these on an 07 VFR? The mech is going to fit them when they arrive but I am trying to work out where they will mount. The rear engine bolt seems one location - but where on the front without carving up the faring (which I am sure they dont do?).

Ideas or pics anyone?

Painful, traumatic and expensive experience with a my last new kwaka, that a kind friend knocked off its stand, has me convinced of there worth!

 

Question answered - couldn't find a link before but have now found one which I'll post for others who may have looked:

http://www.kenma.com.au/oggy.html

looks like they are mounted behind the radiator and come out at the rear of the radiators triangular opening. Relatively subtle for this sort of thing - seen some shockers that cut fairings. If it saves me 1 tip over scratch it will have been worth it!

Now back to riding.....!

 

Jackal
I have been looking for months for a slider that requires no fairing cutting. It seems Oggy has both cut and no-cut. The no-cut you refer to appear to extend less over the radiators then the HPS: http://www.promotomelb.com/pdfs/OK548-549.pdf.
However, this still brings up the debate I have seen over and over again on this forum, will an HPS or Oggy type slider actually cause more expensive damage in a tip over than nothing at all, i.e., you may save the fairing but destroy the radiator-much more costly to replace. Have you inquired with the Oggy manufacturer about crash/tip-over tests?

 

No I havent seen any test results - only heard testamonials from a mech who has fitted them to other models... I guess I am looking from protection from the classic "fall of the stand" type damage and I would hope that at the very least these knobs will do that from 0Km/h without impacting the radiators. They seem to be more expensive than any other knobs - $500aus so that bracket must be well engineered!!!!! If I come off at any speed I would expect damage beyond the protecton of the knobs to some extent and then I guess I am into an insurance claim, so if the radiators get taken out then its just another thing on their bill.

They are order and will get fitted in 2 weeks - will report on how those brackets look.

 

Howdy to all VFR'ers; I just started to look into sliders in general,not one particular brand. I definitely think they are a good idea and I am aware
how much plastics and radiators and the like cost,but $500 for something that looks like a door stop on a home baseboard,I JUST DONT KNOW!! Now the X factor in this is, what is $500 aus in U S dollars? Maybe there is more to it,that is all the bracketry and the like.Can anyone more familiar then this Yank tell me where all the cost is in these kits? And with all due respect
to Mr. Oggy, I would like to hear from him and possibly see some tests
on dropped bikes and the like. eddie

 

Looking into Oggys I was warned that the VFR kit was expensive - the average price form other models is around $200~$300aus. The $500 price tag was a bit of a shock but the "no cut" fitting, position of the radiators and the nnumber of potential units he must sell must drive up the price. They do have a very good rep though and look quite neat (for a door stop) on other bikes! 2 weeks and I'll share my opinion of the look on the VFR but, if the web pdf is anything to go by, they are as descreet as you could hope for in a door knob!

Price in US dollars - the aussie dollar was trading in the high $0.90s US so add postage and I expect that the price would be on par with the US.

I keep telling myself - they are $500 because the bracket is titanium/platinum/kevlar spaceage composite and can stand a drop from 5 stories... and they'll save my $x000 fairing and subsequent messy insurance claim. Best of all, they are Australian so I am buying local!

 

Hi Jackal; Thanks for the explaination, I am all for high quality parts that enhance the bikes safety, performance and good looks and I know sometimes that comes at a pretty high price. Maybe I can find out additional info from Oggy's
web site. It would be good if we had some test data on his sliders showing the non damage of the plastic and cooling components after a fall. If these components are just pretty pieces and have never been under scrutiny
then I feel they are overpriced. Anyway if you have time to send some pictures after the installation, that will be good.
Hopefully your installation will be very good from both a form and function standpoint. If so possibly we could get our guys interested in committing to a group buy. eddie

 

I sent an e-mail to Kenma and I just got this response from Peter Lucas at Kenma:


Sorry we can't help with you your question even though it is a common one
Oggy knobs are designed to get you home by helping to protect
radiators and engine cases so in most cases the bike will remain rideable
you will usually still get some panel damage if the bike has full fairing
please see manufactures web for more info regarding us distributor
http://www.promotomelb.com/
best regards
Peter Lucas
Kenma


Q
How much damage will Oggy Knobs or Axle Armour prevent?
A.

Unfortunately there is no conclusive answer to this question. Each accident is different as is each kit and how it performs in the event of an accident, however, we have seen the results of accidents where the damage bill has been considerably less than if no crash protection had been fitted.

 

Hey Olvino; I just sent the guy at Oggy a short e-mail asking him to supply
some additional info on his kits,I will let you know if I get something interesting. eddie

 

Just had the Oggys installed - see pics below. I've over exposed the rhs close up so you can see the bracket disapearing behind the fairing. Brackets looked extremely well made, very solid and fit well. Door knobs aren't too obtrusive at all in appearance. How well do they work - I hope never to report that one but they look up to the job of minor protection and serious damage minimisation!





http://vfrworld.com/photos/data/500/oggy_front.jpg

 

Jackal
Dude, they look great. And much better than the HPS which have that bracket going across the entire vent area. I'm ordering mine soon. By the way, beautiful bike !

 

Hi Jackal

Great Sliders, great bike. !!!:smile: :smile:

Best Regards D-V-T

 

Jackal
I just installed the oggy knobbs last week. Couple of questions. On my bike the left side, the fairing rests on the oggy knobb bracket causing the fairing to very slightly bulge. The right side correctly does not touch the fairing. Also on the right side, the OEM engine bolt had on it's bolt head end threads to mount a bracket for some small device (that has to do with the coolant system?). The same oggy required replacement bolt had no threads (this is not mentioned in their instructions), this bracket can be relocated though. Did you have the same issues on your bike?

 

Hi Olivino

I noticed the slight bulge to the LHS fairing too - mentioned it to the mech who fitted it and he was certain that this is the only way it goes - I have placed some pvc tape on the bracket to lessen any rubbing on the fairing - on mine the bulge is so slight that I'm not bothered about it. As for the bolt issue - the mech must have relocated mine - he never mentioned it anyway. After install he handed me a long bolt and 2 spacers that must have been replaced during the install. He did re-route the breather tubes in the install - from the factory mine were popping out the back of the fairing after a long ride.

Summer over here - enjoying the riding weather!

 

Oggy Knobbs, so far so good

I just installed the Oggy Knobbs myself and I can report exactly the same thing as Jackal_vfr and olivino: the left fairing touches the Oggy Knobbs bracket and bulges slightly. I'm hoping this won't cause a stress fracture long term. I've written to Promoto about this and I had a couple other suggestions about the instructions since I installed these myself. Here's what I wrote to them:
*** quote ***
There are some minor fitment issues (none of which would cause me to return the product) for your information:
[1] coolant tank refitting: the coolant tank does hit the left side bracket enough that it doesn’t quite go back in place properly. Some melting of the screw holes to enlarge them and some forceful tank positioning got it back installed
[2] bulging left fairing: the left bracket interferes with the left fairing causing it to bulge outward and requiring the fairing to be forced into place above and below with its mounting bolts and leaving an outward stress permanently on the fairing. Long term this is not ideal as a stress fracture will likely result.
[3] crescent opening on left side bracket tolerance: the powder coating(?) on the left side bracket had some drips(?) on the inside of the tips of the crescent opening that hooks onto the engine mounting bolt B spacer. I had to file away the material a bit to get it to fit around the groove in the spacer. This leaves some exposed metal which will rust.
[4] right side bracket not quite parallel to the frame: as I was installing the bolt and nut fixing the right side bracket in place, I noticed that the bracket did not sit squarely against the frame of my bike. Without the bolts/nuts, testing for fit, I found it tended to rock against the frame and not engage evenly into both bolt hole detents. I let the bolt and nut pull it against the frame and it’s probably fine. Either the measurements aren’t quite right or my particular bike is not quite right.
[5] instructions need to specify how to install the actual knobs onto the brackets. I figured it out eventually but not before I had installed a shorter screw into the frame thinking there were some extras in my kit. After putting the correct length screw into the right side engine/bracket mount, I could see by what was left that the knobs are mounted using the remaining two matching spacers and bolts.
[6] instructions should mention that engine mount bolt A runs through the whole bike and needs to be entirely replaced with the longer one from the kit. This was not obvious to me until I tried to take out the original one and found it spinning around since the other side was spinning with it.
*** end-quote ***

Otherwise I think they're worth the money: very high quality and heavy duty - easy to say once you've popped on them and are trying to justify them