Power commander HP gains

Ok guys, I would like to know what mods you have done to your 6th gen and how much of a HP gain you got from it w/ PC.
Please list mods & type of PC.

Thanks all :thumbsup:

 

Nothing personal Reg.
I have a 6th gen and been putting a mod list together and have a few differnt directions I could go.
So thought best if others would share ( and I hope they will ) what they have done to thier 6th gens. Would help me pick the proper road to most bang for buck.

This year I been on the susp. upgrades and shedding some weight.

But if anyone who has mods and HP gains to share on any V-4 honda please feel free to as well. Next project is to build my own bike using V-4 honda engine.

 

I've done all of the usuall suspects, pipe, PCIII, K&N, gearing, dyno, etc. I can tell you there isn't much that can be done in regards to big HP gains.

My bike went from 78hp to 100 hp, but that wasn't really a gain as much as it was just proper mapping for high elevation and getting back some Hp that I had lost.

I think the place to start is in the understanding that the mods will get your ride running a lot better, not neccessarily faster, and that shaving some weight (exhaust etc.) is one of the only ways to really get going any faster.

One thing that does make a differance is either gearing down a tooth in front or up a couple teeth in the rear. This won't add any Hp but will redistribute some of it to the mids. It will make your bike faster from roughly 0-100mph, but shave top speed off and slightly effect high gear acceleration. I really like this mod and IMO it offers the most bang for the buck, about $40 and 1/2hr. labor. It should be especially effective on your bike due to the 02s' later VTEC engagement.

The PCIII, pipe, K&N, will help with things like off idle jumpiness, VTEC transition, weight loss, sound, smoother acceleration, less hp drop just before the VTEC, and so on, and is definately worth it IMO, but not a major jump on the dyno. Maybe a 5-10hp gain at best.

 

yea, it depends on what part of the power band you're looking to get gains in. There really isn't much to be gained unless you go crazy and get a toro charger!

 

02 specs 108hp prob given to flywheel
would think PC would give more then 5-10hp gain w/ exhust.
anyone else has any personal info to share ??

 

Hi , My opinion is that the Power Commander is a tuning tool and not really an engine mod. The power commander,in my book,and I have one on my 5 th gen. is akin to
taking a carburated bike and optimizing the jetting. If one has a deficiency in their FI bike like to lean at low RPM, then when corrected by the P.C it can feel like a HP gain. That is all. eddie

 

I think havcar has it down. I have a 07 VFR800A7 ABS, mods include Two brothers exhaust system,K & N filter with air box mod, PC III USB with 02 eliminator kit. the only Item that Tied this together was the Dyno time & tune. all other items were for comfort.(MotoVision lights,gps & chatter box & camera holders, Cortech bags, light mod included Day light sensor for low beam flashing.)

I went from around 78 hp and 41 max torque right around 98.79 hp max torque went to 54.60 . this tune took the transition from a bang your head on windshield to scoot forward to keep frt. down. this really improved the twistes as now she powers thought with out diving and recovering at 6300-6500 rpm.
My Red Rider went to Rocket Red. I will be up loading my last Dyno tune for PC III users to play with. My Tune is way different than cozye ver 5.
Fuel millage will very on your driving habits. the funnest part of a ride for me is getting on the freeway as is the twistes in the canyons around my house. the mirror extions I made put shoulders just out of mirrors so I can keep away from blue light specials. My son & I just did a 1200 mile jont to Vega's Gas mpg was averaged at 51mpg cruised at 70+. I take rides to Reno all the time thats 186 miles each way but all up hill or down hill. If I stay with kids in car at posted speeds going to Reno gets 48Mpg Up hill . coming home its 53Mph down hill. avg. on 40 mile commute 45Mph all on reg.gas...
Have fun

 

If you only have 78hp on a 6th gen something is way wrong.

 

It's just those lame California bikers and their silly emissions regulations. J/k I have no idea. :bolt:

 

Bangbang. I would love if you could post up your tune. I would like to take a look at it and see where you are making power. I ahve been thinking about a Pc for my 07 and I think you just sold it to me.

 

where do I up load it thought i had it now im lost? is there a download or upload area? thanks

 

Something was wrong. One of the major problems was that I installed the PCIII and used one of thier downloadable maps. The other, and less severe problem, is allitude. Dynojet didn't have a specific VFR/Two Bros. map so I used another short can map(don't remember which). I knew straight away that there were problems. The bike was running far too rich and bogging down under heavy throttle. There was also a major power drop from around 5500rpm through 6300rpm. I disconnected the PCIII and went immediately to a local tuner, we re-installed the PCIII, ran a dyno with the current map, and my suspicions were confirmed. The mentioned HP drop at VTEC ended up being something like 12 or 13hp. Certainly some of that low total of 78hp had something to do with alltitude, but a large portion was the PCIII. A dyno with a custom map solved all of the above and more. Again, not so much of a gain getting to 100hp, as it was a retrieval of lost HP.

This isn't directed at anyone in paticular as I am not interested in another argument over the merits of dynoing, so nothing personnel here, But please believe me when I tell you guys that a PCIII can actually be a significant downgrade without proper mapping, if you can find a map that matches up with your exhaust and it works for you than great. Just understand that none of dynojets maps compare to a custom dyno map. In my case stock was far better than the PCIII with a sh!t map, and every penny I spent on a custom map was worth it. In fact, with the experience I had, I would not run a PCIII without a dyno. Just me!

As far as getting more than 5-10hp, I've done just about everything I can, short of that new A&A supercharger, and that folks is about the best one can hope for. If anyone can figure out a way to get more, please, I'm begging you, let me know!!

Have a good one!!

P.s. I'm not sure where Honda measures the HP of thier bikes, but it isn't the rear wheel and that's the only number we should concern ourselves with.

 

well what is stock Hp ? If you search for Specs. there are none out there. Honda does not post them. Dyno runs are the only way to find this out right? on 5Th gen bike I have seen posts of up to 110 hp on 6Gen it gets a little screwey if you know what i mean. what is stock Hp & torque? (6gen Vtec).
Then we have ADD ons? I don't like the HP BYE % that way I added 110% but only got 20 HP.? Dynoed. we can go on all day but what matter's is are you happy with all the money you put in and the end RESULTS. right?
I just what to know what was done and how happy are they with upgrades.