Shaved Seat Instead of Lowering VFR

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  1. A.M

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    Hello, All!

    After hearing from some of you and after further reading, I decided to attack my seat height problem at the source.
    I didn't want to affect handling and have to worry about load amounts when traveling, so I got brave last night.

    I shaved down the seat. Turned out to be a success!

    Supplies:
    Flathead Screwdriver
    Needlenose Pliers
    Sharpie
    Electric Carving Knife
    150 Grit Sander
    Staple Gun
    1/4in Staples

    The first step was to assess how I sat on the bike and see where problem areas were in getting more of my feet to touch the ground.
    The top and insides of the seat needed to go.

    I removed staples starting at the front of the seat and working back both sides. I did not remove all of the staples because I was not messing with pillion seat. I used the screwdriver to pull out staples and had the needlenose pliers handy to help with stubborn staples.

    I pulled the cover back just over passenger seat (staples were still intact for that part of the seat). Before Seat without Cover.jpg

    I maked on the foam with the Sharpie the areas I needed shaved for sure. This included most of that extra side foam that snatched away my precious inseam inches.

    There were numerous helpers...my cats. LOL

    I then went at it slowly with the electric carving knife. There were suggestions to use a hacksaw blade with at least 24 tpi. But I suggest if you ever do this...use the electric carving knife! So much of a cleaner cut and less hassle. I went very slow with the carving knife to make sure I was cutting evenly and what I wanted. I only shaved thin pieces at at time. I would rather make 100 small cuts than 20 big (and regretful cuts). I did not have to move the knife side to side because I was using the electric carving knife. So this was much easier to use...gliding through the foam. RIP Foam.jpg

    I took the seat out several times durign the cutting process to test it out. I simply pulled the cover back over the seat (no stapling yet) and put in on the bike. Sat on it. Put my feet down. Etc. I then brought it back inside to continue shaving until I was happy with the results.

    Warning: MESSY Messy Seat Job.jpg

    After shaving with the carving knife, I sanded the seat smooth. I did the sanding by hand. Shaved Seat After Sanding.jpg

    The hardest part of this job was reattaching the cover with the staple gun myself. I was careful to staple the front first with just a couple of staples, then pull the sides and attach with a couple of staples...anchor staples, if you will. When I was happy with the placement of the cover, I filled in the rest of the spaces with staples. Because I removed so much of the seat, There was extra cover material, so I had to make sure not to stretch it too much one way and make it uneven.

    Stapling with the staple gun was the hardest. I did this by myself...my cats lazing around while watching my struggle with the stapling myself. If you have help...I would suggest you get a 2nd set of hands for this part!!

    I put the seat on in the dark last night so I didn't test ride it until today.

    The results: AMAZING!!!!

    Not only do I have the ball of my foot on the ground (which is what I was used to with my CBR600f4), I feel more integrated with the bike while riding instead of feeling I'm just on top of the bike. My legs hug the tank perfectly for me, I feel closer and more in the bike, and the center of gravity has changed which adds to the awesome feeling of being "in" the bike, not "on" it.

    Overall, I highly recommend anyone who wants to lower the bike to do this first!

    You may be nervous to cut away on your seat, but as long as you go slowly and be patient with the process, you can have great results!

    Any questions? Just ask!

    And again, thank you to everyone for your thoughts and suggestions and pointing me to do some more reseach before going straight to lowering. :)

    NOW...to replace the crummy tires next. I've always used Road Pilot 2, but I was suggested to try Pirelli Angel GT. More reading to do...:)

    Filter on bike I didn't realize was on...bike is pretty sparkly white! :)
    Seat After 2.jpg
     

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    Wa la, love a plan that works out like it's suppose too. SCORE!!! Nice job on the write up too, with photos..perfect. you are going to fit in just right here. ;)
     
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    Hi
    If I knew you were going to diy, one suggestion I would have made was to have a heat gun or even your hairdryer handy. When replacing the seat cover, staple one side and just give the area you are stapling on the opposite side a bit of a blast and it will help stretch the cover nicely. It will contract when it cools and voila, wrinkle free seat cover. But it looks like you done a good job anyway.
     
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    Ooooh...that is a super suggestion, thecat, thanks!

    I will remember that if I happen to mess with the seat again!
    The hair dryer would have been helpful, especially with only having one set of hands.

    I'll have to see how this job holds up...I may have to redo the cover.
    The cover didn't stretch as much as I would like and the struggle was real last night!
     
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    Very good job, looks fantastic well done
     
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    you don't need to lower the bike or worst the seat-which suks -replace it, just put sliders on instead -when it falls pick it up and ride on
     
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    you don't need to lower the bike or worst the seat-which suks -replace it, just put sliders on instead -when it falls pick it up and ride on-Blacky is bad luck
     
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    Anne, what ever this ASSHAT says, dont waste your time reading....
    Ignore list is a must
     
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    +1 what RVFR said :thumbsup:
     
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    I did a similar job on my old SV650 for my girlfriend, but I used an angle grinder instead of a knife. I also modified the seat shape to conform to a human ass, which made the project a huge success :)
     
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    A second career for you!


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    I put you on my igore list, but took it off. Its too much fun poking a communist in CA.:joker:
     
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    Hi and a belated welcome to the MadHouse:welcome:



    Thanks for the great write up - a virtually free mod which helps you feel more confident with your VFR is a great start.



    In the same vein:

    - consider investing in some decent R&G frame sliders - which are not cheap but will save your plastics and a lot of :censored: if (when) the bike does tip-over. These bikes are not just heavy, but with a full tank a lot of the weight is high up so they are quite prone to horizontal parking, as the point of no return is easily passed. Check out this thread http://vfrworld.com/forums/showthread.php/44298-You-dropped-it-how-many-time! As you will see you are not the only one struggling to keep these bikes upright!

    - consider dropping the forks 10cm or so - another no cost change which will also help lower the ride/seat height (without wrecking the handling). http://vfrworld.com/forums/showthread.php/48536-Holy-freaking-hell!

    - fitting quality lowering triangles will drop the back by the same amount but then you will probably need to cut down the side stand (and may need to ditch the main stand). Be wary of adjustable suspension links. A while back a rider (over on VFRD) had a nasty shock when one snapped whilst riding on a highway allowing the rear suspension to collapse which rapidly chewed her rear tyre to pieces, on the fast lane of an interstate. Sadly it appears the original blog has now been removed by VFRD.

    - Free off and then carefully retighten the mirror pivot bolts - so the bolt is just tight enough to keep the mirror in place but loose enough so it will rotate harmlessly out the way if the bike goes over, rather than snapping off. Same for the levers tight enough to stay put, but slack enough to yield when really stressed. On the mirrors there is a hex(allen) key bolt located under a plastic cap which you pry off. The mirror is usually the first item to break when these bikes tip over. Genuine replacements are not cheap but quite a few on here have been happy with Emgo (Chinese) copies from eBay.

    - There are a few manufacturers of quality motorbiker boots specially designed to help shorter riders. I am not sure if this brand is available on your side of the Pond but over here one of the top selling boots are these from TCX who make good quality motorbike boots with Italian leather and Gore-tex waterproof membranes which incorporate ankle and shin protection and an integral raised heel will make you instantly taller without going so far that braking and gear selection becomes a nightmare.

    - If there is a decent circuit doing track days nearby - check if they have a suspension specialist available who can help get the bike set up right. Before spending out on any upgrades, it is well worth seeing what can be delivered by the stock kit with the help of an expert. Obviously the springs and other components have been under load for approaching 10 years now and they may be reaching the point where replacements or some renovation is needed. Sadly few dealers have the time, inclination or expertise to really do this for you.

    - If you intend taking the VFR on really long trips - then fitting a cheap Vista throttle lock will really help on long haul days. Likewise if your reach is also limited you may find Helibars will allow a more upright riding position and help reduce pressure on your wrists on long trips.

    Take care ATGATT





    SkiMad
     
  14. A.M

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    Lolzz, if it falls...
    But really, the seat needed a mod and I'm very pleased with the results. :)

    Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
     
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    Love the idea of an angle grinder!! Thanks! Next time I can try that. I may get more of an assy contour to the seat. :)

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    Wow, SkiMad, thanks for all of this useful info and welcome!!

    Your comments will definitely be useful for me and other readers!!

    I'm very excited to learn what I can do for the bike and to make things enjoyable for myself.

    I'm planning a long haul in 2017 and it may be solo, so I have a lot to learn!!

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    did this make the reach to the bars better ? I am 5 '8 and touch the ground flat footed but find the bar reach a bit far .I was wondering if sitting "in the bike more" made the reach feel closer? thanks .
     
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    Yes, I noticed a difference in better reach with more comfort as well. :)

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    very nice link!! thanks.
     
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