VFR1200 - Finally some production photos

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  1. John451

    John451 Member

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    Congratulations to those wacky European Journos, they've caught a production VFR1200 being tested. :thumbsup:

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    Linky:
    Foto Spia Honda V4 1200 - 1/6
     
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    Oops after a search around just seen the same photos have been posted in " How many of you would buy a VFR 1000 " thread by VfrCapn but a new thread to discuss couldn't hurt.
     
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    Damn, that looks kewl!!! I wonder if that'll be my future bike?
     
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    Nice shots...
     
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    Check out Motor Cyclist October issue have a story on it and in the back call six gen smart money.
     
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    It doesn't look nearly as bad I thought it would. Looks kinda tubby, maybe it's just the bodywork. There's so much going on with this thing, gonna have to see it and try it in real life to decide.
     
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    Pretty much mirrored my own thoughts although suspect the price with all the doodads would rule it out of my future budget and would rather it had a manual Gearbox. The panniers look good of a useful size an the riding position similar to the current Gens which is a good thing.

    Perhaps like the FJR1300 it'll come in 2 flavours 1 basic manual and one loaded with the DSG, make mine the basic one. :smile:
     
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    Well there's definitely a cluch lever on the bike in that photo.
     
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    looks like honda decided to lean toward the touring aspect than the sport.
     
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    Well spotted, Happy Days. :smile:

    Looks like this is there Hyper sportsTourer, the next will be a ST1300 replacement so fatter and more Tour biased, the question is whether a full Sports version will be released further down the track. :confused:
     
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    my eyes, you got it in my eyes!
     
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    Have you guy's not been paying attention to all the high quality info we have gathered?

    One; The transmission is selectable; it can be manual, paddle shifted, or full auto. So they will all have a clutch lever. It's one tranny, with three selections. So if you HAVE to have manual, then just don't ever select semi or full auto; course you'll still have to deal with the cost / complexity of the system on your bike...

    Two; there is going to be three models of the bike. The first one, the R, is a replacement for the VFR and Blackbird. The second, the T, is a replacement for the ST (called Pan European over seas), and the X is a new adventure/GS like bike.

    Three; at this time, there will be no "race-replica / hypersport" variant; however, the head of Honda Motorcycle did also say that the new V4 engine would be at the heart of several new motorcycles coming out over the next few years, so the potential exists.
     
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    I wonder how this is different from an ST?
    I mean aside from all the techno-stuff.
    Weight?
    Chain vs Shaft?
    It will beinteresting to see.
    Personally, I never got past the 5th Generation, so I guess I'm way behind...
     
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    Actually looks kinda cool to me. When my bike wears out I might consider it.
     
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    You can't have a manual with a dual clutch system. Dual clutches have two separate hydraulic circuits controlled by dual computer-controlled solenoids. So there will probably be two optional transmissions, manual and an electronic with the auto/paddle shifting.

    btw, if you go back to the Honda video, you can see it is two different bikes.
     
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    What I found the most interesting about the techno write-up is that the front two cylinders are spaced to the "outside" of the V configuration, and the rear two cylinders are spaced to the "inside" of the V. The bike should feel pretty narrow in the sitting position, and that's probably why it looks a bit tubby from the front view.
     
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    The T model will replace the ST, and all the models appear to have shaft drive...

    I disagree. You can still have a "manual shift" with a dual-clutch setup, and everything that has been posted so far, including several diagrams and cutaways of the actual transmission, have all stated that you will have all three choices.
     
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    This thing must weigh a metric ton!
     
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    Here's the video: Honda Worldwide | September 8, 2009 "Honda Announces the New Dual Clutch Transmission for Use in Large-displacement Sport Bikes--a World’s First"

    Starts off: "The operating differences between manual transmission and dual clutch transmission." Not differences between settings but between two different transmissions.

    Notice when they're showing the auto transmission, there is no clutch lever.

    Also, the km odometer readings on the dash are wildly different between the two models, also indicating two different bikes.

    I still think the dual clutch will be an option, possible on all the models since it could be nice on the sport model too, quicker, smoother shifts, but you won't get all three modes in one bike.
     
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    You do get three modes, however based on another article I just read, you could be right...

    http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_0909_2010_honda_vfr1200_semi_auto_transmission/index.html

    "In order to respond to rider demands in a broad range of situations, the transmission is equipped with three operating modes: two fully automatic modes (D-mode for regular operation and S-mode for “sporty riding”), and a 6-speed manual mode that the rider operates by paddles on the left handlebar. Optimized shift scheduling in the auto modes achieves fuel economy equal to or better than that of a fully manual transmission, enabling the Honda Dual Clutch Transmission to deliver both performance and economy combined.

    One very interesting aspect of the Honda announcement was the company “intends to gradually expand the deployment of the new transmission to more and more of its large-displacement motorcycles, particularly sports models destined for use in developed countries.” In other words, don’t be surprised to see this dual clutch semi-automatic transmission on the CBR1000RR (and maybe the 600RR?) in the future."
     
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