Gas Additive to help clean carbs

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  1. Hingley

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    With all the talk about ethanol being so bad for carbs has anyone had any luck with a fuel additive that will break down ethanol and other carb clogging deposits
     
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    The only fuel additive I found good was Chevrons techron.
     
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    Chevron's Techron is good stuff. Adding a whole small bottle dose to a bike tank of gas may be overkill. Whether or not it "breaks down" ethanol, would be a question for Chevron.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techron
     
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    what about using ethanol free gas? http://www.pure-gas.org/

    Had some good luck with BG products, disconnected fuel line, introduced product into bowls, and let sit over night. Yamaha has a decent one in a big black bottle too. This technique was used for a bike that had a neglected
     
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    I just went thru this with my old Nighthawk I brought back from the brink. I ran Seafoam in it and it helped. When I refilled the tank I used K100-G and it made a BIG difference. http://k-100.com/
     
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    I used to use BG44K which was mostly Techron until they changed the formula. Then I used Techron Concentrate. Then Chevron (don't think Chevron is in NS) stopped bringing Techron Concentrate (or any other Techron additive) into Canada. Then I couldn't find Startron although it might be found at marinas. Now I use Seafoam a couple of times a year. It is also good as a fuel stabilizer for the winter months. I buy nothing but Premium grade gas which is ethanol free (everywhere except Husky and Mohawk out west) for the bikes and small engines.

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    I'm sticking to my Techron story. I may buy some today at Wal*Mart.
     
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    Buy some extra and send up here to us. We're depraived - errr, deprived!
     
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    Always have good results with BG44K
     
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    As noted up here in Canuck land it can be hard to find the products you can find in Wally World down south
    I did find a seafoam product and I have heard some good things about so I will give it a try
    I did find on the net a product made by STP designed for the problems of Ethanol but I have had no luck finding it so far
     
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    You don't have Amazon.com in Canada?

    There are probably a lot of additives that will help. I have had good luch with Lucas Oil Fuel Injector Cleaner. A friend convinced me to try Redline. Haven't used enough Redline, long enough to know if it is better than Lucas. But my friend is smarter than l......

    Ethanol free gas, and any additive will help. Good luck. Report back, please.
     
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    Amazon can provide for a price. The stuff is flammable. Wall*Mart has some new things going with delivery and in store pick up. Second hand info so far. I get consumer stuff via radio and the net from a straight shooter named Clark Howard. Podcasts and streaming probably available to you demented sorts who live in the Frozen North. ;)

    My bikes have carbs. The 1991 VFR gets regular carb synchs. That and an occasional slosh of Techron ; no problems in 26 years. For similar products maybe a look at the MSDS sheets on 3-4 to compare general characteristics.
     
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    OMC makes a product called 2+4 they use it marine applications. This stuff works great at keeping carbs clean, is made for fuel with ethanol and also a fuel stabilizer. I have used it for years in everything from my snow blower and lawn mower and use it in my bike as well. You have to buy it a marina.
    I don't buy Premium fuel anymore after figuring out this........ when you go to the fuel pump and make your selection for fuel type, if the person ahead of you has purchased regular fuel and you hit the premium button, I figure the gas pump hose holds a few gallons and buy the time it pumps all that fuel in my tank all I have in my fuel tank is regular fuel. The hose at the gas pump is now full of premium fuel for the customer behind me who pays for regular fuel.
    If I see someone buying premium fuel in front of me I will buy premium for my bike then.
     
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    Who has ethanol free gas? We do not in Utah and have three refineries? That 10% makes them money. I will follow that link but the only gas in Utah has that fucking 10+ percent. I could go out to the airport and get something just as bad to the bike but will run like a son of a bitch until I have to replace all of the engine parts. I saw the list and only three stations in Utah within 80 miles of Salt Lake City have it with the required 91+ Octane. Nope this sucks.
     
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    I use nothing but ethanol free gas. It's easy to find where I live and it makes a remarkable difference in power output in the VFR engine. With ethanol free gas, it takes away the want for a liter bike. The owners manual of a VFR only says use 86 or above octane. VFR's run best on 87 octane and, in fact, run like crap on premium gas. I can get premium ethanol free gas but it runs very poorly due to the high octane. That applies to the 5th, 6th, and 8th gens. at least. Sorry you can't get non-welfare fuel. "I'm from the govt. and I'm here to help you...."

    Back to the OP's concern, small engine shops carry ethanol treatments designed to prevent separation in the fuel. Techron will do nothing to address that.
     
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    I just started a small two stroke hedge trimmer that had not been started in at least 9 months, three pulls and it was ready for some action. I store these things with fuel in them, at work - If I use one of these tools, I will drain the gas oot and run it till it dies.

    Nothing but ethanol free 90 octane Recreation Fuel goes in my lawn mower, weed-eaters/etc and my beloved 91 VFR. This gas station that sells the stuff is quite the chit, big bike hang out and trucker station. Two turns down the street from me pretty much. Too bad Utah screws you like that :flip: Before I switched to ethanol free gas, I had all kinds of problems with my weed eaters, deteriorated primer bulbs, bad carburetors, etc. The stuff is a miracle for me. :peace:
     
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    It would be great if Drifting Along would start adding some links to these wonderful sites that he knows aboot. I'm aboot ready to dig into a box I have stashed somewhere and get some of that small engine stuff and see if it works in an old model airplane engine I have. I sure hope it still works and nobody snitches me out for running a two-stroke.
     
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    This gas thing is getting interesting, just tonight there was a program on one of the main TV stations talking about
    How there is no difference between reg and high test gas. They found no performance difference between the two neither in miles per gallon or power created. I will still use high test simply because it does no have the ethanol that reg grade has.
     
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    On my 2Stroke RD350LC I won't use corn piss ethanol fuel. A couple years ago I had regular in it and it locked up on Hwy 401. I was so fortunate there was no damage to the motor as I pulled in the clutch the same time it locked up. The ethanol is heavier then fuel and separates, burns much hotter then gas and wreaks havoc on 2t motors. Non ethanol for me. Try seafoam?
     

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