SPORT TOURING Tires

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  1. mlap5150

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    It happened to be my very first track day (Gingerman in MI) so I was going pretty slow. I also tend to drive pretty conservatively on the road.
     
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    I wish I could. I tried it once. Worst five seconds​ of my life... ;-)
     
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    Probably right. Honestly, that was the first time I had ever ridden in a heavy, heavy rain. I had ridden in rain where the tires got a little light a few times but that is it. However, I mean this was a flooding rain even for a cage. The good thing is I do have much more confidence in them now whenever I get caught in rain.
     
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    So, I conclude the realistic answer is to try something else (probably PR2) if getting a smoother ride will ever happen. Thank you all sincerely for your input. ; )

    Gator, you get great tire mileage because you live in Florida (zero turns) and the white VFR's only have 45hp. :hss:
     
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    I'm up for new tyres again, last time was tossing up between the RoadTec 01 's and Rosso IIIs, as good as the 01s are I usually flip between ST & Street Sport tyres so find myself tossing up between the Bridgstone S21s & the Rosso IIIs.

    How'd you go with the Rosso IIIs, did you like them on tour and would you recommend them for the VFR800 Gen 5 ?
     
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    They are sport tyres not. Sport touring tyres.
     
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    So I'm running Q3s on my 99 - my 919 had PR4s and loved them for commuting and just general riding - not too bad in the corners either. Question is if anyone has tried the PR5s? Depending on what happens in the next few weeks - I will either be replacing the Q3s with Power RSs or the PR5s - hoping to get some feedback before then.
     
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    Their manufactures blurbs appear to list them in the category of Street Sports although both have specifications highlighting long life for sport tyres so perhaps the line is becoming ever more blurred.


    Bridgstone S21s:
    Whether you are a track day enthusiast or just need a tire to grip it and rip it through your favorite back roads, the Bridgestone Battlax Hypersport S21 Tires are designed to match the performance of the latest generation of super sport motorcycles.

    Recommended for:
    ● Riders who mostly enjoy sports riding
    ● Riders of supersports motorcycles who want a combination of performance in the wet and long life
    ● Riders who are thinking of starting riding on the racetrack


    Pirelli Rosso IIIs:
    The new DIABLO ROSSO™ III can satisfy even the most demanding riders who want a road tyre capable of guaranteeing great handling, an excellent level of grip and high performance constant over time. More specifically, DIABLO ROSSO™ III is dedicated in particular to motorcyclists who love to ride their motorcycle with a sporty and enthusiastic riding style to feel on the road the same emotions that can be felt on the racetrack.

    DIABLO ROSSO™ III is destined not only for owners of naked, supersport motorcycles but also of those of supertourer bikes who use their bike in every context, from winding roads to mountain passes, always looking for high lean angles. These are motorcyclists who use their bike both for short trips into the country lasting a day and for medium/long-range excursions during the weekend with light luggage and, sometimes, also with a passenger, but always looking for high performance.

    Finally DIABLO ROSSO™ III does not shy from even the most extreme use: occasional lovers of the racetrack will also be able to appreciate the great handling of a product born and designed for the road but derived from racing.

    https://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/...-of-sports-riding-taking-it-to-the-new-level/
     
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    I think the Rosso III are a newer generation tyre than the S21.
    I just checked my records, and I got 8000kms from the rear and 11000kms from the front.
    Mostly on windy roads with a couple of long trips.
    What I liked the most apart from grip, was the fact that they felt fine all the way to the end.
    I hate when tyres (specially front) start to tip in after half life.
    Fitted a new set again.
     
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    Oh, and they work fine on a 5G
    I never miss an oportunity to show off my bike.

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    Still in progress with the Road 5 so too early to give any realistic feedback but I have used the RS on my 5 Gen at the track. Good tire, fast warm up, feels solid and turns in well. The Road 5 is a similarly built tire, shares the same technology, but is more designed for wet weather and longevity, so touring and commuting would be more suited to the Road 5. If you plan on doing more sport/track time, the RS would be my choice over the Road 5.
     
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    As I'd liked the Rosso 2s you've sold me on the 3s, booked into SPM Friday interesting they also recommend the Rosso 3s over ths S21 for the VFR800.


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    I guess you mean SMP, have fun, its a great day out.
    The 2's are liked by a lot of people, but the 3's are a better tyre.
    The bigest difference is how much meat they have on the road when leaned over, they have a much more egg shape as opposed to the round shape of the 2's.
    I just got back from a long way around trip to Phillip Island for WSBK with five mates, all six bikes had 2's and 3's.
    One of my mates has a very similar riding style to me, and we usually hit corners at the same speed and quiet close, so I can see we have the same speed a lean angle.
    At the end of The Bonang (105kms of slow speed twisties) we were comparing rear tyre wear, he's 2's were used right up to the edge, my 3's still had 8mm of chicken strips for the same lean angle.
    The bike tips in easier and feels more planted when leaned over.
    Can't comment on wet weather grip, as you know we haven't had much rain in the last year and I don't commute.
     
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    I cannot find a single review of the Bridgestone T31 tires anywhere. I know they are released, I just wonder if anyone else does?
     
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    Just put Z8's on my 8th gen. Plan on big tour in a few months--I'll let you know.
     
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    SPM is Sydney Performance Motorcycles at Taren Point, just it's the closest most convenient tyre shop to get to..

    Re profile change, one of the things I liked with the Rosso 2,s was it's linear turnin so will be interesting to note the difference..

    Did the Bonang November last year, seems less sandy dirt on the NSW side than previous years though still the same amount of gravel at the end of the Victoria side, have they sealed anymore of it since ?

    My favourite road down Vic Alpine way is the C543 Omeo highway from Mitta Mitta to Omeo, just as winding as the Bonang, nearly as many corners and no dirt or gravel, last 2 times I've done it my Gixer riding mates had to rest half way with their legs turned to jelly. :)
     
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    Mates on his second set of pr5 way better than 4s he says.
     
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    [QUOTE="John451, post:
    Did the Bonang November last year, seems less sandy dirt on the NSW side than previous years though still the same amount of gravel at the end of the Victoria side, have they sealed anymore of it since ?

    My favourite road down Vic Alpine way is the C543 Omeo highway from Mitta Mitta to Omeo, just as winding as the Bonang, nearly as many corners and no dirt or gravel, last 2 times I've done it my Gixer riding mates had to rest half way with their legs turned to jelly. :)[/QUOTE]

    Same amount of dirt on the Vic side, but it seemed better this year. They were chip sealing the Vic bitumen while we were there last year which stuffed the ride then. NSW side is slowly getting sealed the whole way, this year it only had a couple of kilometers.
    We came back through Mita Mita this year, non stop (except for a couple of water stops) from Omeo to Jindy, a thigh burner for sure.
    The road from Khancoban to Jindy looked like a hundred garden mulch trucks had slowly lost their load, it was a bit scary at times.

    You will love the Rosso III's
     
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    Great! Thanks for your feedback. Good to know about the experience with the PRS - gives me something to think about for sure.

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    Has anyone tried the Dunlop GPR 300's? A 120/70 ZR17 runs about $88.00 while a 180/55 ZR17 cost around $111.00. They are supposed to be good sport-touring and commuter tires that were originally developed for small displacement sportbikes like the R3. Later, Dunlop developed GPR 300's for larger displacement sportbikes. It seems like it is a basic OEM replacement tire.
     
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