92 VFR Throttle not snapping back at left or right full lock

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    Hi, apologies in advance if this has been covered elsewhere in this forum but I haven't been able to find it. Last year I acquired a 92 VFR which I love, however the throttle has bugged me as there was too much play. I adjusted the play with the barrel adjuster on the throttle cable and it is down to about 1 - 2mm now, but the throttle does not snap back when the handle is turned all the way right/ left.
    the throttle cables are routed in such a way that they gets pulled by some other cables when turning right. The bike also has has bar raisers which might be adding tension to the cables. I want to remove the cables from the top (throttle) end and reroute them but they are so taut that I cannot remove them at the throttle end, is there a trick to this? I removed the left fairing to have a look at where the throttle cables are connected (sorry I don't know what this is called) and there doesn't seem to be a way to disconnect them from that end either.
    Could someone help me, or if this has been covered before, show me the link for this specific issue?
     
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    You could remove the entire throttle. If you don't have enough slack to do this, you could remove the front brake master cylinder and switch gear from the bar, then remove the entire right side bar from the triple to gain the necessary slack, then loosen the throttle and slide it off in one piece to remove the cables. It's either that, or disassemble the throttle housing on the bar to be able to remove the cable from the throttle cam. If they are that tight, I would look into having some +2 inch (+50 mm) throttle cables made up for it.

    I don't know the age of the cables themselves, but it sounds like a good time to pull them off and flush them out and re-lube, then reassemble. The easiest way to clean and relube is with one of these:

    https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0182

    Or you could go this route and just use a plastic bag:

     
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    check FSM manual diagrams for proper routing, very important !
     
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    today I removed the brake lever mount, removed the top of the switch housing, the bar end weight and then the handle itself. no luck getting either cable out. in the end i just removed both bar raisers, the reduction in tension didn't fix the problem so I might have to live it with until I take it to a shop.
     
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    quitter ! :(
     
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    I would take it to the shop and have somebody take a look at it. A man has got to know his limitations.
     
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    Agree you should probably re-route... sometimes a bear getting the cables off..... but if it won't spring back sometimes that means you've taken out too much freeplay.... OK to be near zero but no less, perhaps back off and readjust? Again, still check into re-routing if it's that tight.
     
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    shops toda are as likeli to fuckup your be as to fixit. :axe::(
     
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    In certain situations, it is best to assume a more pragmatic approach.
     
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    so i messed about with the barrel adjusters again at full lock right, and with about 5mm throttle freeplay the throttle returns to the original position. not quite snapping back, more like a languid meander, but it's a lot better than it was. the lower handlebar position actually feels better too, at the moment at least.
     
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    There is a black nut that threads up against the plastic housing on the right hand control, you should get the adjustment of the cable so it will not bind when you do a full lock. If you want more slack from the cable take the mid fairing off and adjust the cables on the carburetors, there is a pull/return cable. 10mm wrenches are your friends, pretty much it, I believe if you used the steering lock on one of my gen3 bikes the throttle would not return with authority but when do you do a full lock anyway? Post up pictures as :worthless: Peace btw these cables are very well made not like the stuff now, look at the choke cable, it has an inner teflon lining on it. Honda was on their A-Game back then.
     
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    thanks for that, I hadn't realized those two nuts against the housing could affect the throttle cable tension as well. jeez lot's to learn. i'll play around with that and see if i get any joy. i don't have pictures of the problem as such but here's a pic of my bike, i reckon it's a beauty!
     

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    I love that red they sell on your side of the pond, real cool. Rear fender looks killer, I paid alot to replace one that was cut on my 93 I picked up second hand. Alot of time, effort, and money has gone into these bikes. I don't know the mileage you have on yours but swapping out the regulator rectifier shingen (misspelled I know - starts with a FH) is a good thing to do. I eliminate the plugs too with soldered connections it goes on and on...Peace
     

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    yeah it's a great colour, sounds bloody amazing with a delkevic pipe as well. they seem to have a lot of nice looking white ones in the US which are pretty uncommon here. yes the regulator/ rectifier died on a ride a few months ago, I got a cheap ebay replacement, so far so good. i have a spare in my tank bag.
    the bike has 87,000km on the clock, roughly 54k miles. i've only put 2000km on it myself. i'm getting a new YSS shock and springs for the forks next week. it's a quality machine, you're right. people who know bikes respect this bike, people with better knowledge than me. i'm very glad to own it.
     
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    who have you got 3 of them? what years?
     
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    Hi, Negative, Three registered street bikes, 91 VFR, 93 VFR, 04 EX500 aka GPZ500. I owned the 91 since 95 bought used from a small MC shop that used to do tires and dyno testing, bike had 4000 miles at the time, now it has 81,000. It still is the most I paid for a new/used bike. 93 I was looking for for years and found one on Craigslist (I believe you have it there) Hooked up trailer and brought it home and had to put a fair amount of mind/blood/sweat into it to get it reliable. EX I willl spare you hearing about since it is a Honda forum :lol: My original r/r on my 91 lasted 70,000 miles or so before melting and getting me stuck, before that I replaced the stator as my memory serves me. I would not deal with chinese r/r or other electric components short of LED bulbs etc. I know Yamaha makes a good one, I have one from someone that sells them and flies helicopters for the state of California who is an engineer. Roadster maybe. Anywho, it is a long love affair, I recently powder coated one of the wheels and got a seat cover made for the bike I affectionately call "First Wife" - take care and ttyl Warren

    I have quality suspension on all my stuff and never cheap out on tyres either, food for thought Peace.
     

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