Bought a 2014 CBR600RR...thank God I kept the VFR...

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    Yes, I learned that. Once I got used to keeping it in the 7000-8000rpm range, I could really feel the power beneath it. No wheelies yet....still working on comfortability with the bike!
     
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    I'm glad you're trying it out. The CBR has a dedicated sport riding position that puts you more on the tank so you can feel the front end better and therefore guide it better in the corners. I have a super-sport bike as well as my VFR and like them both for different reasons. The VFR is a surprisingly effective casual track bike however, presuming you've set your sag and rebound properly and you've dumped the yucky OEM Dunlops lol.

    Good luck with both bikes!
     
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    I'm a little late to the thread here, but being an owner of both a VFR800 and a CBR600rr, I had to chime in.

    I'm sorry you didn't like your CBR600rr. Mine is just like yours only it's a '15. Unlike you however, I wasn't expecting the CBR to be a sportier VFR! The CBR600rr feels like a racebike. Its engine feels like a race engine. It has a very close ration gearbox too so the engine revs barely drop from gear to gear. And it changes gears much faster than a VFR. Since I'm comparing it to an 800cc, the difference in power isn't that much but the CBR is a lot faster due to its lighter weight (130 lbs. less than my VFR800), and a higher power peak. Is it better? Not at all. It's just different. Do I like it better than my VFR? No. I like them both. Which bike to I prefer to ride? If the riding is for fun, then there is no question: the CBR600rr is way more fun than a VFR800. For commuting, I'd say it's a tie. For long distance riding, no doubt the VFR is the winner. I think the CBR600rr is a great compliment to the VFR.
     
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    Hey OCLandspeeder, since those initial rides, I've come to really like the CBR. And as you said, it's a great compliment to the VFR. I've noticed that corner entry speed is faster, and cornering all the way through, feels faster. It took some getting used to the high revving nature of the bike, and I still, nor probably will I ever, use all of the power that the bike has, but, yes, overall, I'm really enjoying it!!
     
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    lol Jamie. The guys over on the Yamaha forum might have a problem with that period. Except you have to ring the neck of the R6 even more. I had more 1k sport bikes than 600's but have rode several 06,07 and 08 CBR 600's that were properly set up for the track with full Ohin's and they were wonderful on the track. I really liked how deep I could brake and how light they steering was compared to the big bikes. CBR's are a completely different animal than the VFR's. Apples and oranges. I think a high side on a VFR would be a terrifying experience with all that upper weight.
     
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    The R6 is a decent bike, but nowhere near as refined as the CBR600RR. That bike is simply in a class by itself.

    My best friend has an 09 R6. I let him ride my wife's CBR and he was strikingly quiet about how good his R6 was after that....
     
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    Yeah the R6 was nice but you really had to rev the hell out of them, no mid grunt at all. Reminded me of keeping my old RD 350 running up high on the pipe. They are doing very well in Moto American again. Reminds me of the AMA Suzuki days when they dominated with Ben Spies and Maladin.
     
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    You should check out WSS! I think it's pretty well understood that US motorcycle racing is an enigma, the rest of the world knows what's going on.
     
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    I have watched it for a long time and love it. Thumbs really got me into a lot of the BSB, BMCRC, Irish road racing etc. He got me a signed John McGuinness Isle of Man shirt when he was there! Seeing how much I enjoyed the TT he showed me some of the other insane road races in Ireland, fun stuff. I am hoping that Motoamerica will get the US back into road racing. Seems to be getting better here but nowhere the enthusiasm as across the pond.
     
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    Just curious if Frank Zappa ever rode in the mountains. "Fucking with", to me, involves a female. Riding on a mountain involves respecting it and my abilities as they really are. Self-honesty and trying to keep up with faster, more skilled riders is commonly the real reason people get banged up in the mountains.
     
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    Or lack of self - honesty....

    Pardon my ignorance. What is the WSS??
     
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    That's great Jayzonk!

    I will admit right now the first time I rode the CBR600RR on the freeway I was looking for a 7th gear! I seriously thought the bike was "broken" because how can it be revving at 7k RPM at 80 mph? At the same speed the VFR800 was at 6k I believe. Later I realized that's just the way these 600's are. I also experienced 15k RPM redline! It just keeps going and going and it feels like you can hold a gear forever.

    Anyway, I apologize for waxing poetic about the 600RR. I really enjoy mine. The engine is extremely flexible and when ridden sedately, you don't have to shift much because it will pull 6th gear all the way down from 30 mph without lugging the motor. I can for example, hit a set of 25-30 mph twisties in 6th gear without any issues (while maintaining around 55-70 mph). The ONE thing I must remember is to get a REALLY strong drive out of corners, I need to be around 8k RPM, which is where the torque peak is. It flies from there! And when you rev it above 9k the engine makes that Formula 1 car sound that is intoxicating! Oh and the refinement and the perfect fueling of the CBR is sublime. No need for a Power Commander (of course that may improve things further). Then the icing on the cake: the bike gets 46-50 mpg! LOL!

    It's a different experience to the VFR. The VFR feels very relaxed at most any speeds, which makes it a great long distance ride. The CBR600RR feels like, well, a highly strung race bike. And that's what makes these bikes so complimentary to each other. Whenever I ride my CBR600RR, I feel that I'm riding the RC213V's nephew.
     
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    Haha I had the experience the opposite way around. Second bike I owned was a 2014 CBR600RR, the 2004 VFR800 is the fourth. The third was a 2015 BMW S1000R.

    Both the beamer and CBR were buzzy and loud on the freeway and it really wears you out. Only thing I really miss from the BMW is the electronic cruise control and the “big turbo car” feeling of the top end rush from the CBR. That’s about it lol. Although an exhaust may help bring back that sensation.

    The ergos of the CBR only come into play when your really hauling ass (track).
     
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    I ride the Interceptor 500 on and off for 31 years, and earlier this year I purchased a used stock 2005 600RR. I really like it a lot, the suspension and brakes are good. Handling is fantastic. And yeah that afterburner thing is good too

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    I’d still own it had it not gotten stolen lol
     
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    Believe it or not, the CBR600RR is the MOST comfortable of all the 600 super sports. Just gives one an idea of how sporty these super sport bikes have become over the years. My 600RR has a stock exhaust and yes, it is louder than the stock VFR800 exhaust, but at highway speeds, they're pretty equal due to the wind noise. Well, up until you get over 8k RPM then the CBR just sounds like a Formula 1 car and the VFR is more NASCAR V8. Vibration-wise, my CBR is pretty darn smooth, especially at high RPM. I'd say the VFR800 has slightly more medium frequency vibe above 8k RPM. But I'm splitting hairs here as I think they're both very smooth. But I'm used to bikes with REAL vibrations. I had a Buell XB12R, 1125R before, and I also have a DR650 single cylinder. Trust me, these bikes vibrate. LOL!
     
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    Just got my 2001 vfr 800 after years of gsxr, yzf and rsvr and I also wish I got vfr earlier. Up to the 5th gen the vfr to me was a sports bike made capable of touring with softer suspension. I've just ordered a suspension kit which comprises of ohlins rear shock fork springs and oil all set up for your weight and was only 525 quid off eBay. The vfr should corner as well as most sports bikes of that era. Can't wait [​IMG]

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    Cbr600rr most comfortable 600 total rubbish all supersport bikes feel like your sat on top of them only the gsxr's feel like your sat in them and are known to be the most comfortable (for a supersport). I've had gsxr600k1 gsxr1000k3 and I can honestly say they are pretty comfy for a sports bike. Have ridden CBR 600 rr and r6 and they are a far more extreme riding position . Now the cbr600f was comfy before the underseat pipe one came out. Just my humble opinion mind. In fact if you want a light comfy supersport I'd say get a yzf750r old but boy they comfy and handle and cheap

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    Sport bikes are not designed to be comfortable. And cruisers and not designed to drag a knee at the track and leave nice blackies on corner exits.
     
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    That Silver G5 is beautiful.

    I had an 07 CBR600RR. It was a great bike, but it had 2 flaws. No leg room. And... it's a CBR. Meaning it doesn't "work right" until you're going 80 mph.

    I sold the 600RR and got a 599. Re-jetted the 599, did an Ohlins Shock, SS Brake lines. It has 90% the performance of the RR, but is a lot easier to live with.

    In September, I bought a really nice '99 CBR 900RR. The older CBRs were a little more towards the "all around", rather than being hard core, track bikes that the new ones are. The 900 has a sporty riding position that I can ride for quite a while. It's light, fast, good looking, and I enjoy riding a carbureted bike.
     

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