Develop and hone your "sixth" sense when riding - short vid by Mick Doohan

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  1. John451

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    This video by five times motorcycle world GP champion Mick Doohan is well worth watching, digesting and understanding for its tips and encouragement in developing a "sixth" sense when riding.


    “The more you develop and hone your (sixth sense), the better your chances are of surviving to ride another day,”

    [video=youtube_share;CA3lAqh3WCc]http://youtu.be/CA3lAqh3WCc[/video]
     
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    Funny but great advice..."Look through the corner to where you want to go because that's where the bike is going to go. Start looking short or fixating on that gum tree off the side of the road and the chances are you're going to be shaking the Koalas of it real soon" :rofl:
     
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    Nice vid from the master.
     
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    Great advice. Good to keep practicing this. Ya that gum tree, funny love the accent.
     
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    "Negative camber is a bugger!" lol
    I have seen a lot of guys at the track look at someone who is running off track and they end up following right after him. Its very true, you will go where you look.
     
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    Look up on YouTube the vids of Casey Stoner and Marc Marquez using the throttle to slide the back wheel to corner quicker. These guys are amazing. Prolly good VFR's don't have the power to do this or I would be ; )
     
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    Do you watch Moto 2? I swear they back it in more than any others.
     
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    Looks like there is a whole series sponsored by OZs DOT with Mick Doohan in the lead spot. Good stuff!

    Before using the sixth sense,some familiarity with the five senses might be a good idea. We would like to realize as best we can wise words from a dude who if you ain't familiar with who he is ya probably ought to trade in your bike for a skateboard.

    The five senses:
    http://udel.edu/~bcarey/ART307/project1_4b/

    Taking into account using several of the five and developing the sixth sense, for if nothing else to save the lives of koalas falling out of gum trees, and being slapped on the Barbie, a hundred pesos sez that Mick ain't jammin with some other dudes on a cell device, texting at 100 clicks, doing the head banger boogie tuned into some obscure rock group that was a -1 hit wonder or doing much else than just riding for the sheer joy of riding.
     
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    In the 1850s, Australians settling in California planted several species of gum trees. Here they are called Eucalyptus trees or Eucalypts. Many can be seen in and around municipal parks in the Long Beach area. The trees have a distinctive aroma, much like a fresh bay leaf.

    Now I am wondering what a koala smells like on or off the Barbie.
     
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    The house I grew up in had four or five of those monstrous, sap-pissing buggers. Thanks. Now I know who to blame for it...

    Ciao,
     
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    It was the railroad that brought the Eucalyptus to California. It was thought that the fast growing tree would replenish the railroad ties faster. However, Eucalyptus splits easily making for a very bad railroad ties.

    With no native predator (Koalas) the Eucalyptus spread like a weed is southern California.
     
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    [video]https://youtu.be/fUFu0HAzN-k[/video]

    Dang watched the Casey Stoner master of the slide video.
    Toward the end shows him power sliding with the front on the skirt and the rear on the pavement. he's hanging off soo far that he has to shrug his shoulder forward and up to keep his arm off the skirt.
    Gotta love it, alot of times people say that the bike can handle it (a curve, did or obstacle)it's just the rider cant. I would like to see a riderless radio control bike try be half as fast without a hundred + pounds of rider hanging off it. I guess what I saying is just because Casey stoner or any of the other greats can make it happen ,doesn't mean the bike itself is capable of said move, there is a fine line somewhere where the bike alone is not capable and the rider increases it's capability.
    There is a certain point where precision control inputs alone is not enough.
    I guess unlike cages , where only the drivers control input matters on a bike the rider is an integral part of the machine.
    Cars were so easy after a few years of driving I (as well as a few of my friends) could jump in almost any vehicle from a front-wheel drive Ford escort, to a mustang, to a turbo Chrysler Conquest , 300xx or even an old truck and have it four wheel sliding (not always the fastest but most fun) through the twisties in no time.
    As a testament to the increased difficulty, I of course have not and may never get to this level on a bike ,and certainly not without track days as I am a bit more responsible now.
    I always had alot of respect for the drivers of the various GT classes, but it's just a Sunday drive compare to the skill of motor racers on pavement.
    I ever get rich, I will get a nice trainer track bike, maybe a race ready 250 or 600 and some education in setup and truly fast riding , yeah cars are fun but it takes a much bigger pair as well as alot more skill to push a bike to the edge.
     
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    Great video! I remember guys doing 2 wheel sides at Laguna in the corkscrew, which was a washboard compared to those tracks.
     
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    Maybe trade all those cars you have for a better bike with good rubber might be a good way to get started.
     
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    I agree, they do not make good houseplants.
     
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    I was always able to get weed in SoCal. That being said, the Australians used some species of Eucalyptus as railroad ties with great success. Consider too that in the 1850's the cutting of redwoods was rife and left to the folks back then who had little or no sense of conservation would have left parts of Northern California as hundreds of acres of stumps.

    The generic "Eucalyptus" was beneficial planted as windbreaks from the Satana Winds. Keep in mind that again in those times much of So Cal is and still is desert and in real terms until the Boulder/Hoover Dam was built in the mid 1930s SoCal in the greater LA basin could be drier than a popcorn fart. Many long gone and extant orange and avocado groves are still wind protected with stands of Eucalyptus trees.

    This is a more definitive read on the subject:

    The tree that was used in Australia for railroad ties was eucalyptus. Several species of eucalyptus are useful for lumber in Australia and several of these make excellent railroad ties since the wood is extremely hard and long-lasting, with little tendency to rot. Beginning in 1850 about fifty species of eucalyptus were imported into the USA and later around 1910 eighteen varieties of eucalyptus were selected among those known in Australia as especially useful for timber, including certain ones for railroad ties. These species were planted in several areas up and down the West coast, including a huge plantation by the Santa Fe Railroad in the area of San Diego County now known as Rancho Santa Fe. The main species planted in Rancho Santa Fe seems to have been red gum eucalyptus (E. camaldulensis), one of the best two eucalyptus known in its native Australia for lumber and railroad ties, and white ironbark (Eucalyptus leucoxylon), which is also a tree prized as lumber in Australia, but some other species were tried out as well. Unfortunately, red ironbark is highly susceptible to the Red Gum Lerp Psyllid, that got started in California in 1998 and this has caused repeated defoliation of the red gum trees and often resulted in death of this species of eucalyptus in Rancho Santa Fe.
    Around 1920 a few trees were harvested and given a trial as railroad ties by the Santa Fe, but unfortunately the weather in California is not suited to growing eucalyptus for lumber. The wood was found to be internally twisted and having a tendency to split. All this happened long before any pests afflicted eucalyptus in California so you can imaging what a huge disappointment this was to the railroad. The railroad sold off their land for development and the first buyers came from Chicago, where the railroad’s headquarters were located. Rancho Santa Fe was touted to wealthy people there as a great place to retire due to its fabulous climate.
    Though eucalyptus was a failure here as a timber tree it could be used for other purposes and wherever groves of them were planted, many ended up as firewood. In Rancho Santa Fe when the trees failed to produce the hoped-for railroad ties, the area was subdivided and the trees became so prized for their appearance and drought-resistance that they turned into a hallmark of one of the wealthiest communities in the the United States. Meanwhile farmers had discovered that the blue gum eucalyptus (E. globulus) was useful as a windbreak and it was widely used agriculturally, especially in orange groves to stop the damaging effects of seasonal Santa Ana winds. A few eucalyptus are good in gardens, such as lemongum eucalyptus (E. citriodora) which unlike many others is deep-rooted, and many are ornamental, prize like flame eucalyptus (E. ficifola) for its stunning floral display, or like E. citriodora, for its handsome structure and all are known for ease of cultivation.

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    I believe Casey stoner is an anomaly. All the fast guys are fast. It seems to come down to two things who has the biggest balls. And who can take care of their tires the best throughout the race.
     
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    If Casey had kept racing motorcycles I think the battles between him and Mark Marquez would have been some of the best Moto GP racing ever
     
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    "moto gp sliding" on Utube will get ya hours of fast guys sliding bikes. This is a bunch different than drifting in cars especially those with front wheel drive. Old vid/film of that going back to the 1960s of guys racing the original Mini Coopers.

    Moto GP may someday get to the point of mid race tire swaps. For now, too much sliding although a fun watch from the peanut gallery is still hard on tires at the speeds the fast guys ride.

    Then we got your compounds that are used for qualifying and are only good for a few laps this and miles and miles of the fast guys testing tires in non race conditions.

    A prime example of the value of tires in general on a 62 year old bike.

    http://www.95customs.com/the-1955-57-moto-guzzi-500cc-otto-v8-racer/2015/3/3
     
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    I agree with these two things but there is a lot more to it. Setting up the bike to the riders style and the particular track is huge, and rider skill should be added to the equation. It takes gonads to ride the way some members here ride. More than a MotoGp rider possibly because some people here "race" on public roads. The most dangerous real estate on the planet.
     
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