Front rotor ALOC bolts

F me, I sure did. Thanks. I don't know what I read. Ugh.

This definitely qualifies as RTFM

 

I was also thinking 23ft was a little high !!

However,

Thanks for the info, now I will be more aware that more than 14ft is to be really avoided according to the Lint Stress Test. :biggrin:

 

Sorry Frank, think maybe time for glasses


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might as well add salt to the wound LOL 23? wtF.. sorry though, that sucks you should be able to get whats left out with a little or a lot of &^%$#!

 

Well, this just goes to show that Honda's full of shit... 11 out of 12 bolts were absolutely fine with DOUBLE the recommended torque! :beguiled:

1. I, too, have stretched and broken steel bolts threaded into aluminium--you might think the threads would pull out first, but they usually do not. It's easy to test this, too!

2. Honda torque values are given for OEM fasteners, installed with (or without) oil, thread lock or anti-seize AS PER THE MANUAL's INSTRUCTIONS. If you do something different, the torque value may not be correct. Specifically, if you torque a fastener Honda intended to be installed dry to the same torque--but slathered in anti-seize lubricant--you will over-torque it, because torque wrenches depend on friction. The same applies, but to a somewhat lesser extent, to "dry" fasteners with liquid thread lock applied to them. ALOC fasteners are supposed to be installed dry, so if you apply anything to the threads, you should reduce the indicated torque accordingly. The trick is to figure out how much less, because there is no rule...

3. I have always wondered why ALOC fasteners have higher torque values than "regular" fasteners of the same size. One day, I intend to kidnap and torture some Honda engineers until they reveal all.

Ciao,

 

Got the little bugger. Total cost, $8.97 plus tax. Ryobi screw extractor to the rescue!





I still think it's a good idea to use new bolts, but, had I read the correct torque specs, it probably would have been fine to reuse them.

 

Good on you, Now, are you going to order up some Ti ones

 

Lucky bud-- glad fer ya



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The is such a thing? Will I notice the weight difference? ;-)

 

Thanks Chuck!

 

The beauty of snapping a rotor bolt is that they typically just snap the head off, so you just pull the other bolts out and remove the disc and there is more than enough thread to easily extract them...unless you have the "touch" and snap it off in the wheel itself.....

 

PB bolt
https://www.pro-bolt.com/titanium-disc-bolt-honda-pack-x-12-4.html kinda pricey ... but O the bling

 

So far I have the entire front end on my duc in the black ti and I will continue to work my way from front to back. Next up is the handlebar mount and all of the controls when I do the Ohlins damper kit install. The sumo project had every single bolt, nut, and washer except for the motor mounts and swingarm pivot. The 06 had about 85% of the bolts replaced with ti. Ti is so much nicer to work with and the feeling of quality can't be beat. The machining of the pro bolt stuff is very good, especially the race drilled flanged hex bolts and 12 sided metal lock nuts.

Mettec makes some bike specific parts for Hondas. For the VFR you just need to cross reference a lot of the Honda part numbers with CBR's, etc.

 

Guilty. Saved by a screw extractor.

 

Ask me how I know... ;-)

 

I know that face well. Before I started using Pro Bolt ti fasteners, I was purchasing ti fasteners from a company I will not name in SoCal....their rotor bolts kept snapping the heads off....I finally took a good look at them and realized that when they were machining the shaft prior to cutting the thread, the tooling was undercutting the material just below the bolt head. This undercutting made that area very weak in comparison to the rest of the bolt...kinda like crazy gluing a bolt head onto the end of a stud.

This was back in 2006, since then Pro Bolt has gotten much bigger and now has a presence in the US. David at Pro Bolt USA is a super nice cat and the quality of the Pro Bolt hardware is excellent. If it's good enough for MotoGP, WSBK, and BSB teams, it's plenty good enough for me.

 

Wow, they REALLY need to work on their mobile coding.

 

They are nice looking tho!

 

The Ducati rear axle nuts are serious jewelry.....I will post pics when I get my project done.....I know a certain person that would love to see another one of my projects, rofl.