hangin' the left foot out

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    Troy Bayliss was the first rider (I think it was him) to hang his left foot off the peg when approaching a left corner. Now it seems that all the top riders are doing it. It's carried over to the Moto GP crowd as well.
    What's the results of doing this. Weight transfer? Wind resistance????

    The commentators never say anything, just wondering if I missed something.
     
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    Got a photo?

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    I looked on Moto GP's site and didn't see any pics. I found a vid on Youtube where someone did it.
    Look close...at 18 seconds the guy on the inside of the corner did it for a split second.

    Watch the next WSB or MGP and you'll see what I'm talking about. The season might be over but Speed usually shows reruns (whenever they aren't cramming NASCAR crap down our throats)

    YouTube - Jerez gets ready to rumble with MotoGP

    If I find a better vid, I'll post it.
     
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    Because it's a good way to get your nuts unstuck from your leg :lol: But on a serious note there's a couple of different theories on this, the first theory is it's a rhythm thing for corner entry, and the second is since Motogp uses a reverse shifting pattern, some riders use it to reposition their foot after downshifting in preparation for a corner...



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    gawd. Look at Rossi's rear tire unweight.........
     
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    Apparently its to help shift weight to the inside/front.
     
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    I was gonna go with maybe they are thinking flattrack in their heads... never noticed them doing that actually... I have done it on occasion but it's usually after I have been riding the dirtbike a lot.
     
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    I've definitely noticed that too. Rossi does it before left-hand corners, especially after a long straight. I would guess that it helps provide some more wind resistance and slows him down faster than just using the brakes.
     
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    I still think it's for weight transfer, but then I'm no road racer either. Moto GP Saipan will be on speed on Thursday or Friday, I forget because the TiVo always picks it up.
    The top runners are the ones w/the talent to do the foot trick, the rest don't do it (yet). Maybe it's monkey-see monkey-do, but it looks cool.

    Watch the next onboard camera shots...They're flying down the straights in top gear (6th?), they lay on the breaks, unload the rear tire and drop down to 1st/2nd gear and still doing 130. I figure it's so they can concentrate on braking while the rear end is floating around.

    Man, I love watching the pros do battle....but those are milloin dollar machines too.
     
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    You're definately right about that! Bayliss was doing that trick long before any of the others, then all of a sudden severl of the top riders in GP started doing it. Heck I'm pretty sure I saw Mlading and Spies doing it a couple times in the later rounds.

    I noticed that when I tried it I was able to relieve some pressure from my nether regions a whole lot easier!! I alwasy thought that it was just a character "ocd" type of thing with Bayliss until I saw everyone else doing it.

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    When Troy is on, he really cooks.
    In one race I saw, he was alpping 1/2 second faster than the rest of the field. You could see him pushing and forcing the bike to do what he wanted. I was amazed that he used his elbows as well as his knees as angle meters. While exiting the corners, he would lean as far forward and outward as possible, to stand the bike up and get back on the gas.
    If we all went out on our VFRs and stuck our head beside the front blinker while navigating a turn, then we could claim to be a Troy want-a-be.

    The bad thing...when Troy is having an off day, it really shows.

    Thanks for the input everyone,
    Gene.
     
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    Bayliss is a pretty amazing rider for sure and I've watched a ton of MotoGP, FIM Superbike and AMA Superbike races this year thanks to my DVR. Bayliss was the first person I noticed doing this. I've seen many riders pull their left foot off the inside peg before turning left, but only recently have I've seen riders touch their toe on the ground before making that left. Rossi was really doing it a lot the last two races. Funny thing though you never see it on right handers. I'm guessing it is that at that level they tend to use the rear brake. In any case, it is odd and eventually someone will ask one of the riders who do it why it is done and we will all be surprised by the answer I'm sure.
     
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    So if you lift your foot off the peg, does the weight shift to your butt (good for keeping the back tire down) or your hands (not so good for keeping the ass tucked under)?

    Rossi seems to be using the Flintstones brakeing method as well... dragging your foot.

    Pedrosa uses the fairing on the bike just to his outside to help get his bike turned in... see FrankQ's picture earlier in the Dani's helmet thread.
     
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    Go back to the 500 gp days old dirt tracker style. puts more on the front end lets the rear get loose. have seen some do w/ the right as well. but more so on the lefts cause they are on the rear brake slightly. McCoy was the best at sliding it but really never put his foot out there.
     
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    look close a pic and see how far up the tank Rossi is and how light rear of bike is, then back will start to come out to get him to the inside of turn w/ more speed
     
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