Note to self: trips to, well, ANYWHERE this time of year,

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  1. Firehand

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    take more water and electrolyte stuff. Almost 500 miles, Texas and back, and I really should've had about twice the amount I took.
     
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    I was taking some high intensity physio a few years ago. Well...actually about 15. One on one with a highly skilled kinesthiologist. He had some high priced clientel so I gues he knows his stuff.

    Anyways the drift here. He told me to get some sea salt and put a few granuals in my water bottle. Every water bottle. Just enough that you get a hint of the salt. There are your electrolytes with out all that sugar and other crap they put into the sports drinks. The lack of sufficient water in the heat over a period of time will result in severe muscle cramping. You would not believe the charlie horses you will get. Throw Type 2 diabetes on top of that and the leg cramping is outrageous. SO ya. Drink water.

    But yes, When riding in hot weather, you need to hydrate. Especially on long and extended trips. I also discovered that you need to practice breathing through your nose and keep you mouth closed as much as you can on these long trips. I suspect an extreme amount of body moisture is released through the mouth as opposed the nose.

    On my trips down to R3 and around Arizona, So Cal, Nevada and Utha, every time I stopped for fuel, I drank a 750 ml bottle of water. Also peed every time but can assure you, what came out, was not even close to what went in.
     
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    Getting very dehydrated and learning the hard way and then after some research, I learned that if you wait to drink water until you are thirsty, it is already too late. I always drank a big container of water before leaving and then would stop every 45 minutes to an hour and drink a container of water whether thirsty or not (just a quick 5 minute break and suck it down). Made a world of difference. At certain times and NOT staying hydrated, was hard to lift bike on center stand. Stopping and drinking at intervals, I could put bike on stand with no problem and the bike seemed so much lighter. Riding is much more pleasurable that way.
     
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    I've found wearing a camelback is a nice way to stay hydrated to. Especially through California high desert in late July.

    Just take a sip when you have an easy straight away and you're fine.

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    I've carried one water bottle under my rear cowl on my old 83 and under the seat on the Blackbird. So I always have at least 20oz with me and can refill the plastic bottle just about any place. On trips with luggage I carry at least 3 to 4 bottles of water and refill them if needed.

    Randy that's a good trick with the sea salt in the water for electrolytes. Why sea salt? Will regular salt work also?
     
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    Local place gave me their recipe for a electrolyte supplement.
    1/2 gallon water
    6 tablespoons honey or honey powder
    2 teaspoons salt(they use the Himalayan sea salt as it still has the minerals in it)
    2/3 cup lemon juice(or any citrus you like)
    1/2 teaspoon orange extract(for flavor)
    Mix it all together and drink as needed. Seems to work pretty well, you can adjust the ingredients to suit(I use half that much honey), and no '25 grams of sugar per serving'.
     
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    I've read in a few places that there's almost nothing better than pickle juice for full on hydration. Apparently some big names in the sports world swear by it. I can't say whether it is a dilute, or if they drink a shit ton of water between drinks of the pickle juice, and I have yet to try it. Just throwing that out there.
     
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    The way it was explained to me, salt is salt as far as blood pressure and heart disease goes. But if you want the salt, use sea salt because it has many benificial nutrients for you that table salt does not. If you switch totally to sea salt, whichI have, you need to consider where you get your iodiene that is added to table salt but not present in sea salt. I think my wife still uses a little table salt in her cooking.
     
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    You should drink half your body weight in water daily, good for headaches as well.
    Gigem is correct, if you wait till your thirsty, your already on the dehydration train
     
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    That is part right.

    The average person should take their body weight, divide by 2, and consume that many ounces. If you were to drink the equivilent weight, I would be drinking 11 gallons of water a day. You can drink too much water too. But that would be hard to do. It would be an effort for sure.

    An athelete would naturally drink far more than that because he would be sweating more water out of his system. All the more reason to drink water with electrolites in it. Some health issues would require nore than that as well. I need more water than what is recommended and it is not because I am some ripped athletic stud.
     
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    I have tried that. My problem is that if there is water that much at the ready, I will drink int down. A fullcamelback would last me about an hour max. I would have to wear a catheter strapped to my leg and running out the bottom of my boot or I would never get any miles behind me.
     
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    Just doing some reading to make sure I am on the mark here. Iodine has been added to table salt starting in the USA since somewhaer around 1924 to counteract the problems associated with certain regions of the US where iodine does not occure naturally through fruits and veggies grown in soild that has no or little iodine in it such as the Great Lakes area and the Pacific Northwest. In our global economy, we eat foods that arrive at out homes from all over the world so it is highly unlikely that you would be short shifting yourself of iodine if you were to cut out table salt. But what I have read, it does not hurt. To OD on iodine, you would have to concume a couple grams of the stuff. What you are getting in your food ans salt is only a few milligrams.

    This site is great. Causes one to read things they may otherwise never read. I was be getting to be an edumacated person.
     
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    I have read that in the U.S. you would consume enough iodine in other foods that you would not need to worry. Third world countries is another story and that is why goiter is big problem.

    I did run across this article which is pretty good and explains how to make your own sports/rehydration drink and limit the sugar. Recipe is very similar to what Firehand mentions. I like it because it explains the "why" and "what" to use to make it. I like gatorade but shy away from drinking it because of all the sugars. I may have to make some of this to try even for just mowing the yard, like today, where our temp is supposed to reach 99 degrees here and heat advisories in effect.


    http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2...ctrolyte-sports-drink-honey-stevia-sweetened/
     
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    Like Salt is salt, sugar is sugar no matter where you get it. From carbs, white sugar, corn syrup or honey. They theng to keep in mind is what benifits are there to the different sources of sugar. White sugar has no health value other than gives an athlete energy. But we are not talking energy here. We are talking hydrations. But if you really want to make yourself a sweeter energy drink, by all means. Just don't use white sugar. Honey has other nutrients which are of value to you. Some have suggested that if we used more honey in our infants food pre rather than white sugar, there would be less cases of alergies to some things including bee stings and hay fever.

    Being diabetic, I shy away from such things as sweetened drinks. Even quality orange or other fruit juices are bad for me unless it is to correct a low blood glucoss moment. I cheat enough in my diet I can manage quite well with the seasalt in the water. Matter of fact, I quite like water so long as it is cold. Warm water is a complete turn off but I will drink it.
     
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