Prefered fill and bleed method on new rebuild front brake system

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    Admit I posted on the "other" side too.
    The saga of the 5th gen continues with needing to do the front calipers, bone dry system, fiill and bleed.
    The activity on bike maintenance I hate the most. I have all the gagets to work it.
    But anyhoo, any hot tips that maybe I havent tryed?

    Thanks guys.

    btw- I hate brake fluid!
     


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    I fucking hate brake fluid.

    I raise the handlebar a bit (to clear the limiting lug if present) and rotate it forward and orient the master cylinder so the lever end is higher than the banjo end. Or on the side stand with bars to the left. You might still rotate the bar to get the right angle but maybe not so extreme so the fluid is more stable.

    Add brake fluid. Start manipulating the lever a bit. I end up almost slapping at it with the end of my fingers. I know this sounds weird. Just make sure you are getting some movement to move the piston over the bleed hole. Pretty soon a bubble will come up and out the bleed hole under the "hood". Then more will come up. They will get bigger and more often. Once it starts, it gets very encouraging, especially when a big bubble comes up. "Oh man, that was a good one!"

    I can get a firm to firm-ish lever without ever cracking a bleeder. Then I do final bleeds on each side to finish off.

    It can take a while on some bikes, but on others it started happening pretty soon and I started getting lever feel fairly soon.

    I alternate between the small tap/slap movements with an occasional full pull. The tap/slap helps release the air up into the bleed hole it seems. Like tapping a brake line to help air bubbles up to the master.

    People will scoff and laugh. It works for me, and I'm only fucking around with brake fluid at the calipers and wheels once, at the end.

    If/when you get stuck, give it a shot. A beer and/or whiskey in the other hand is nice. Some music. Maybe a race on the shop TV. I've spent worse, longer times fucking around with bleeding than this.

    Did I mention...

    I FUCKING HATE BRAKE FLUID
     
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    I REAALLLY REAAAAALLLLY FUCKING HATE BRAKE FLUID!!!!!
     


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    Sarah will come down to the shop and ask, "what are you doing?". Maybe she heard some loud cursing or something.

    "Bleeding brakes."

    She turns around and leaves with out saying a word.
     


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    I don't know if this will work on thee fifth gen or not. I hate working on my bike. So a friend who claims to be a heavy duty mechanic, says that isn't much different from a car really. Besides, I do have the complete service manual in print. And we were doing a complete rebuild of the braking system, braided lines and all. Well, that did not work out. So I took it to a real bike mechanic. Then Bob's your uncle.

    Then later, I chained the chain and sprockets. That front gear was just packed with crap and grease, After cleaning in up really good, and putting it all together, I had no clutch for whatever reason. Immediately before this everything was hokie dokie. I thought some how I got air into the clutch's system. I tried cleaning out the reservoir as best I could, then tried to bleed that system. I never did get any resistance on the clutch lever in the slightest. I tried anything and everything. Then I remembered the best way to do things is to take it to a real motorcycle mechanic. They got that going lickity split. Then I was a happy camper. A smile on my face until I had to deal with Honda and my brand new Gold Wing. Another story.

    I did drink a lot through these procedures though so it was expensive. Soon as my cast comes off, I am going to ride bioth these bikes like a raped ape. In 5 days, 4 hours and 25 minutes.
     


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    md's bike is de-linked. It has a reasonable and logical front brake system on it.
     


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    Well there ya go. That will screw anyone's mind up something awful. I mean Reasonable and logical in this day and age. Pft!
     


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