Post #11. I thought the exact same things, for the most part. Haven't hung out enough in Portland or Seattle to get that read, so I don't have an opinion on that. Motorcyclists and gun owners are two groups of people that will generally side with their clansmen, regardless of circumstance. There is enough blind leading the blind in this country already. The investigators and the courts will have to determine the outcome, not the media or posters in a comment thread.