Road rage- She had to shoot her attacker

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    Post #11. I thought the exact same things, for the most part. Haven't hung out enough in Portland or Seattle to get that read, so I don't have an opinion on that. Motorcyclists and gun owners are two groups of people that will generally side with their clansmen, regardless of circumstance. There is enough blind leading the blind in this country already. The investigators and the courts will have to determine the outcome, not the media or posters in a comment thread.
     
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    Oooh, I missed that part. Seems like the thing to do is ask for money for everything they have happen to them.
     
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    It should be a condition of employment that the employer of First Responders, set up a Go Fund Me Account for every First Responder they hire when they hire them. The funds from that account are to follow that First Responder into retirement when the problems really start to raise their ugly faces
     
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    The answer to your assumption is 'Yes'/'No', depending on the exact method of carry, the training and skill she has, and of course more unknown that those would be the body mechanics at the time she deployed the handgun. Too many unknowns, but it could have been simple, quick, and effective, or it could have been quite a struggle. Regardless, according to the reports, she accomplished it in her favor.

    I agree with others, there may have been options she could have taken to avoid and escape the attack if she would have had a crystal ball to foresee what the man was going to do at the stop. But pretty much without reservation I would say the man had a simple option to avoid his end of life experience on that day, simply stay in his car and go on his way. Regardless of what lead up to the incident, the man was the aggressor and placed himself in harms way. He had the choice of actions which ultimately placed the rider in the position to defend herself with legal lethal force.
     
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    This reminds me a bit of the Peter Falconio case in Australia, something does not seem quite right.
     
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    If people are willing to give their hard earned money to politicians, they will give it to anybody.
     
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    There is a cult of ignorance in the American society, there's always been.
    The strain of anti-intellectualism has a constant thread winding its way through the political & cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy (Sometimes, cult member even disguise their ignorance as free speech.) means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge obtained through scientific ways, backed by evidence.
    When Cult member of ignorance start to fling their right to bear arm, that's when unintended consequential deaths occur; one would justify it as self-defense, in reality it's just the firearm carried has blinded you from seeing other options.
     
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    'Lock'em Judd'.....my kind of Sheriff. Get stupid, go to jail.....get real stupid, go to the morgue!
     
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    Thanks, but no thanks.
     
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    You should really be thankful that the offhand, ill-informed, politically charged (and misogyny-tinged) things people post online don't carry much weight in court. If they did, any woman that ever charged you with anything would probably have little need to prove anything.
     
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    This reminds me of oil threads. They go nowhere and get complicated because of opinion mostly.

    This is a really simple fact based case. Her life was threatened, she defended herself and the person that threatened her is dead because she did what any sane person would do....defend themselves. All the rest of the banter is opinion. When you try to kill other people, you've chosen to take a huge risk. He lost that gamble. The reasons why will never be known so it doesn't matter. I would have shot the man to death too. Self defense is legal no matter how prosecutors may try to twist facts and factual circumstances.
     
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    Lol, a legend in his own lunchtime.
     
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    Fact based? The only known fact is she shot some guy. Why he attacked her is an unknown fact. Did she threaten him by showing her pistol? Did she insult, vilify, or otherwise enrage the individual? Could she have easily gotten away without the need to shoot anyone? Very few facts and lots of speculation.
     
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    It appears you are the one speculating. So you may not know the facts and may refuse to understand that others do. This incident was investigated by the authorities and found legal. The sheep always question the sheep dog after the wolf has been rendered to no threat status, but the sheep never want to get their hands dirty!
     
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    He attacked her. Does anything else matter? He didn't attack her in self-defense, it was offensive according to the material given. If she insulted him in any way, is that a reason to attempt to kill her? If my post insults you are you going to attempt to kill me? I would suggest you not. He had her physically immobilized for the most part. If you would let someone do that to you or physically attack you, you're an easy mark. Get real. You obviously have never faced anyone that wanted you dead or badly hurt or you wouldn't have put up such a ridiculous post.
     
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    Braveheart attempts to think again.
     
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    It's perfectly legal to brandish a weapon in some states including the one I live in if it is believed it might remove the threat. I guess you would let someone whip your ass or kill you before taking defensive action. There's are reasons the U. S. has a 2nd amendment. People don't antagonize others nearly as much where the Castle Law exists.
     
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