Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by derstuka, Oct 11, 2014.
Oh gawd. I'm out.
So, what are the attributes that make a good riding instructor (male or female)? What kinds of things do you expect from a motorcycle riding coach?
To me, what attributes would be to lead by example and the ability to phrase or explain things to someone who has no point of reference with which to begin learning.
Case in point - my MSF coach was a cool dude. However, he had done the class so much that he pretty much just repeated the same script over and over. If a student asked a question , it was a textbook answer. Occasionally a question would interest him and you could see a bit of the passion he had for motorcycling, but it was not the norm. The woman from my post above, she loved everything about motorcycling and no question was too simple for her. When talking wasn't enough, we would get on the bikes and she would show me what she meant. In the instance of "kissing the mirror" she would exaggerate her posture and body position in an attempt to have me mimic her.
My MSF course instructor was not a bad one, it's just that this woman was better. And to top it off, this was while she was on vacation. Working while relaxing!
Found a picture of her on the Dragon a couple years ago:
That is a bad picture to show as an example of her being a good rider. Her bike and body are over the line....just hugging the inside too much. This endangers her and the car coming towards her. Happens to us all, but just saying...not a good example.
not a problem... there are a ton of her pictures:
And on her old 86 VFR I believe:
Back on the Connie:
I've done this many times, but only in corners where I can clearly see what's coming from the other direction, but I get what you're saying here. On that note, a couple of us rode with a newbie and one of the first things we told him was to stay away from the center line, particularly on left hand turns, not barely 5 minutes into the ride, a car comes ripping around a semi-blind corner and crosses the double yellows! I was lead rider and was o\in the right hand side of the lane and as soon as the driver passed me, I turned to double check our newbie, thankfully he was following my line and was on the right side of the lane! I guess lead by example was a good thing here too. :smile:
I am no newbie but I did just that. We were riding in the mountains with friend. I was coming down hill, carrying way too much speed into a very tight right hander. I was hard on the brakes and by the time I had scrubbed off enough speed I was too slow at the apex and fixing to low side with no throttle control. I went wide over the line. I felt like and idiot and it scared the hell out of me since I had no way of know what was coming. It was all because I didn't judge my entry speed.
Somebody famous said one time that a picture is worth a bunch of words. More pictures of not crossing the double yellow on a tight corner makes up for that I guess.. LOL Kind of a good thing whoever the dude was who said all that in the first place said it before some other famous guy invented video cameras.
I have only ridden with a few women and I am quite comfortable to say, each of the can out ride me. Then again, I think there are only a very few out there, M or F, that cannot out ride me.
Misti. Why haven't we crossed paths yet? Maybe I can become your oldest student before I need an electric scooter to get around. Weather permitting, I will ride out go N. Van. at the drop of a hat for brew or beer. Except Starbucks. Don't like their coffee.
There once was a rider named Randy
Whose skills on a bike were just dandy.
A lesson from Misti
She did insist he
Was more randy than dandy.
A friend of mine and his wife are instructors. My best lap times at Jennings were following her.
By the way Misti, have you interviewed or spoke with Mick Doohan lately? I really enjoyed your interview with him. Good seeing him at GP races lately.
Ok, I'm in. Haven't posted for quite a while, but have a 3rd and 4th gen. the 93 is new to me with many worthy modifications. The 97 is mine new from day 1 and has about 28k on the clock.
Do not ride hard, used to ride long, but aging hands have a put a damper on all my riding. I am going to install helibars on the 97 to aid in the comfort level. My 93 already had them when I got it and I didn't notice the difference between the 2 bikes until recently.
Been riding for 44 years, mostly tourers for the first 30. Switched to sport touring when I turned 50.
I still find my vfrs to be the most comfortable bikes I have owned.
I'd agree that these are great attributes. It's always helpful to have something explained in simple terms and to then be able to demonstrate the technique being explained so that you can actually SEE it in practice. Now this leads into another question Would an instructor have to be a faster rider than the student or does speed matter at all? What if the instructor was working with a top level racer?
Not sure Randy I'm often in Chilliwack as we ride off road at Popkum Motorsport Park a lot (I teach with the Honda Jr Red Riders there occasionally as well) and I mini race and take my kid go karting at Greg Moore Raceway as well Let me know next time you are coming to Vancouver or pop by GMR sometime. Take care!!
Thanks I haven't spoken to him since the interview but I did suggest another chat in a year so maybe I'll hit him up again sometime with a new host of questions. It was pretty neat to be able to chat with him like that! Glad you enjoyed it.
Cool Misti, I would like to hear what he thought of the race season. Saw him in the Honda pits a lot at Phillip Island with Marquez. Never saw him with Stoner. And in your interview with him he never mentioned his fellow countryman, kind of said a lot.....
Does speed matter to me? Not particularly. Speed has not really ever impressed me that much in vehicles. Control is so much more impressive. Case in point - I don't watch MotoGP races. Their skill is undeniable sure, but it is still just really fast bikes. Now, watching one of the motorcycle rodeo's? That is impressive and I can watch them all day long!
Oh, as I say in my signature - Speed is the byproduct of control.
This is an example of the rodeo I am talking about.
Speed is relative. The rodeo you posted is fast as fuck!
Is that Susan?
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