To anyone asking if a motorcycle is too powerful to learn on. Remember this.

U.S. motorcyclists should support tiered licensing in the U.S.. It's good for U.S. motorcycling in the long run.





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Another great reason we shouldn't run gas with ethanol innit.

When I was a kid if the Playboys were hid, we had National Geographic.

 

Tiered licensing sounds good on the surface. Washington state had it for years based on displacement, which is based on not much more than being able to extract pesos from motorcycle riders. The argument falls short when hypothetically comparing the " danger" of bikes with given engine displacments. Example: A stock big twin Harley of 74 Cu/in vs a 21 Cu/in Yamaha two stroke.

The argument is valid if one or the other falls over on ya when sitting still. Chances of survival are better IMO with the Yamaha.

 

I seem to recall Nat Geo had it's share of topless pics. "Natives" LOL.
Readers Digest had a story about how the Grateful Dead came up with their name during an LSD trip.
What kid wouldn't read and think, I gotta try that! :glee:

 

How National Geographic never got on the banned book lists in grammar school libraries is beyond me.

 

How about, "No Harleys unless you have tattoos and flunk a riding test"?

 

How bout no Harleys period?

 

Disagree. Just what we don't need is another bureaucracy telling us how to save us from ourselves. I support freedom of choice without more incompetent bureaucrats hired to tell me how to live to someone else's standards. I don't need someone else thinking or making decisions for me.

 

Agreed.
Why do you need tiered learning? Hell 3 years olds should be given fully automatic weapons as their first introduction to firearms and be left to get on with it.

 

You really dont need legislation for this - Insurance companies manage to deal with it every day already.

My friend worked for an insurance company & he helped to develop a new piece of software...
It showed that for the % of young drivers in the first year after passing their test the stats said 96% had an accident in the 17-20 year bracket.

The road is a very different game than the theoretical world would have you believe.

In a car surrounded by side impact bars, air bags, crumple zones, steel, glass, your world is fairly safe..

Not so on a bike,

I hit a bumble bee at about 50mph with my visor up & it hit my sunglasses. I was nearly knocked off the back of my bike.

There is always a few special people who will be able to ride anything, at any stage of their development, & not crash. That doesnt make it smart for everyone though.

 

I'd like a little of great leaders living standards. I could have 2-3 more bikes and a Ferrari.

 

Agreed - no offense to our fellow international forum members here but I think Australia and Europe should keep their tiered licensing system and all their other government regulations to themselves.

[video=youtube;Y-jaEsLJQRM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-jaEsLJQRM[/video]

 

No matter size of power to weight ratio the dreaded left hand turn in front of you is one of the more important dangers to become familiar with and how to anticipate and know how to avoid the tards in cages. Counter steering and turn entry speed might be another.

 

Agreed - even my old Ninja 300 (a so-called "learner bike") could do over 100 mph and easily get you killed - it's the cagers that worry me - not just the tards but also the Q-tips, texters, drunks and druggies :glee:

 

see it all the time ,kid saves some money, plunks it on a gsxr 1000 or similar .thinks he can handle it ,gets killed within a month.also just because he or she goes thru the rider school ,doesn't teach one how to handle any situation, that & proper riding habits are learned with seat time .starting out on small displacement standard motorcycles that are easier to handle helps the learning curve & can also make a better rider. Modern so called "beginner "bikes are way advanced compared to the Yamaha Twinjet, Honda CL90 & other small displacement bikes of the sixties & seventies .I've always felt that a young person should start out riding of road to learn the basics,then a small street bike for a while before buying the latest & greatest stuff .

 

Of all the tiered systems out there, I think LAMS is the best yet.
Can buy s decent bike 650 or less as long as it is not over a certain power to weight.

Countries have regulations to protect society from stupidity. Stupidity cost the community a great deal of money.
Think helmet laws, seatbelt laws, traffic laws etc.

 

V4, the parking lot mention brought back memories of me on my new 84 Interceptor in the Sears parking lot being taught by my buddy Chris how to use the the brakes, especially the front brakes since I was coming from the dirt. Then he proceeded to teach me when going through canyon turns double the speed limit in at 10

 

Waiting for some comments from the lands in the South Pacific, where tiered licensing is a fact for motorcyclists.

Edit: I see someone has chimed in, but.... WTF is LAMS?