I knew I wanted some aftermarket pipes on my VFR since the day I got it. I'd heard these bikes with pipes on them, and knew that's what I wanted. But, I was also concerned about two things: 1) making the bike too loud; 2) losing the stainless heat shields and making the ride miserable for my pillion. The Leo Vinces I got have carbon cans (cooler to the touch), and also come with the DB Killer inserts allowing me to tailor the sound to my needs. Perfect! Plus, I got a killer deal through Indy Superbikes - no tax and free shipping. Yay me!:biggrin: When the box arrived, I tore it open to find the instructions. Ha! What a joke. Let me summarize what it said: "Remove factory exhaust. Install new exhaust." That's about it. So, I perused VFRWorld, and found a useful thread or two. But, really, there wasn't much. I decided to take a few snaps along the way in case anyone else came across these useless instructions! First, remove the seat and unbolt the tail section. Carefully disconnect the wires leading to the lights. I removed the rear fender, but only after I'd unbolted the stock exhaust and realized it was going to be in the way. Save yourself the grief, and do this now. Next, I took all the new Leo pipes, and mocked them up off the bike. I figured out the S-bend, and short collector pipe were going to be the key parts of getting the 'fit' right. Incidentally, none of the pipes are 'indexed', so you really have to leave everything loose, and figure out what needs to move where to get the pipes the same length and height.